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Guest repliedOriginally posted by Lago Blue View PostLooks quite sharp sir, that LY6T is a lovely colour too, I've rarely seen any sort of blue B3 or 4 sedan.
What type front hubs did you use, also B5? Did the (2 x 25mm?) front spacers plus the ball-joint shift, yield just an additional 34mm axle width due to less wheel offset and/or perhaps hubs?
Were the solid sub-frame bushes to also raise the car or just replace the stock bushings?
Perhaps the increased top-mount height would also suit Canadian winters? I've spent some effort raising both ends of mine.
So, next is mud-flaps, and perhaps a skid-plate?
Thanx, I love this color too, but thinking about so popular Nardo Grey.
Hubs...Stock hubs are 8A0407615. That is because of 1991th model year.
After conversion:
Front hubs are 8D0407615E. 25mm spacer on each side (because of hub's offset -4mm). Relocated ball joint. Strut bearing is custom made from 2110 Lada (sealed bearing with a lot of rubber around it).
Rear hubs are 8D0501653B. No spacers, just the offset of hub (+8mm). Stock ball joint. Strut bearing is like the front one.
Mud flaps, and light bar from rally car are coming soon))))
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Looks quite sharp sir, that LY6T is a lovely colour too, I've rarely seen any sort of blue B3 or 4 sedan.
What type front hubs did you use, also B5? Did the (2 x 25mm?) front spacers plus the ball-joint shift, yield just an additional 34mm axle width due to less wheel offset and/or perhaps hubs?
Were the solid sub-frame bushes to also raise the car or just replace the stock bushings?
Perhaps the increased top-mount height would also suit Canadian winters? I've spent some effort raising both ends of mine.
So, next is mud-flaps, and perhaps a skid-plate?
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Guest repliedFinally I did the hubs swap
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Really like my fresh setup!
So the front axle width is now +34mm and the rear axle is +16mm
Clearance is bit higher because of my new strut bearings. But this is not a problem, I would rather say that it is a must have option for Russian roads.
Camber 2.1 front and 1.8 rear.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by Lago Blue View PostNail,
Looking forward to hearing your impressions of your new top-mounts sir, they look like they could easily be up to the job (Russian roads!) If they work well enough I can quit making my fix for the latest Boges/Sachs!
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Nail,
Looking forward to hearing your impressions of your new top-mounts sir, they look like they could easily be up to the job (Russian roads!) If they work well enough I can quit making my fix for the latest Boges/Sachs!
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Guest repliedInstalled 5x112 front hubs and changed front brakes (discs and pads), upper strut bearings.
A4 B6 forged wheels are sitting rather nice!
Left - new bearings. Right old original ones.
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Ferodo discs with slotting. Also 25mm spacer on them.
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Wheels fitting
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And one more.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by valukonis View PostWhy you painted yelow blende cornenrs in red. You can use b4 avant outers
Nice work
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Why you painted yelow blende cornenrs in red. You can use b4 avant outers
Nice work
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Guest repliedFinished with ball joints.
Moved forward 20mm.
Installed my plates.
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Drilled couple of holes 10mm diameter. Installed ball joints.
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Made some adjustments with camber and toe angles.
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The wheel in the arch BEFORE
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The wheel in the arch AFTER
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Works nice, handling is much more interesting than it was.5 Photos
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Guest repliedAnd I've forgotten about struts upper bearings, which don't work well on russian roads. So I did a custom ones from very popular manufacturer - Lada.
These ones made from similiar upper parts of Lada 2110, but machined a bit to fit our chassis. Nice solid constriction.
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Guest repliedSeveral updates.
New rims.
OEM A4 B6 Forged monoblocks. Rather lightweight, solid rims. Decided to paint them into graphite gloss color.
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Also bought brake set:
Rear discs Ferodo DDF1709. Custom made slotting after buying. 6 slots.
Front discs Ferodo DDF1706. Custom made slotting after buying. 6 slots too.
Front pads Ferodo FDB590
Rear pads Ferodo FDB222
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Made a ball joint positioner to move ball joint to the front of wheel arches (20mm distance).
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Looks like the hub will poke out 4.8mm
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by Lago Blue View PostNail,
a) Hard to see in the photo (borrowed from someone on motorgeek, thanks BTW), note how pin center is more off-set from top LH hole center between these two joints. Determine which you have; and if the other would be helpful; and/oR
b) Sounds as though you are perhaps using the B4 A/R bar, correct? If yes, it may be your arms are installed inadvertently reversed, something that is less likely when using the B3 type A/R bar. If yes, then a different wheel position may result.
c) Hopefully, just a switch-around of your two current ball-joints will be enough.
d) You should see my Russian!
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Nail,
a) Hard to see in the photo (borrowed from someone on motorgeek, thanks BTW), note how pin center is more off-set from top LH hole center between these two joints. Determine which you have; and if the other would be helpful; and/oR
b) Sounds as though you are perhaps using the B4 A/R bar, correct? If yes, it may be your arms are installed inadvertently reversed, something that is less likely when using the B3 type A/R bar. If yes, then a different wheel position may result.
c) Hopefully, just a switch-around of your two current ball-joints will be enough.
d) You should see my Russian!Last edited by Lago Blue; 17 July 2018, 14:52.
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These are my arms set btw:
12.9 tough bolts.
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Arms. Top - fronts B4. Bottom - rear B3 Quattro ones (front B3 with rear B3 ball joints in fact).
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With mounted ball joints and welded sides.
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And one more pic.
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