what does the knock 0 1 2 windows mean on VEMS?

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  • Billman
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    Best option is to set VE table at 20 degrees.

    Then adjast MAT/TPS enrichment according to temperatures in order to have the least EGO correction. I have the biggest deviation at IDLE because apparently the injector characteristics change when the temperatures go up.

    I have i.e. 100 at 20 degrees, 102 at 40 degrees and 104 at 60 degrees (TPS 0%).

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  • popdemonic
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    Billman,do you have any ideas on tuning MAT/TPS enrichment?let'say orginally,i never do anything on this table.i found that the RPM usually drops once
    the MAT is getting higher.What's the ideas to tune this table.i assume the most effective regions on the table would be at 0% TPS and paricular MAT.
    for example,if i drive the car on stop n go traffic.the MAT always stick stick around 71-80 C Deg.should give it more or less fuel?
    Thanks Mate.

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  • Billman
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    If it was supplied with it then you most probably have wrong data.

    Go to Vemstune menu: Input, MAT sensor curve and choose VEMS standart mat. Is almost same with the 1.8T mat in the data.

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  • cooperquattro
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    It must be configured lo run 1.8 mat as this was supplyd at the same time,might be patch file issue???

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  • Billman
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    If your VEMS was assembled for original MAT sensor then in order to fit 1.8t sensor you need to remove an SMD resistor from inside VEMS.

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  • cooperquattro
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    Mine is the same..I use 1.8t mat sensor and mind is stuck at _14(I think) if g use aby sensor it sticks at 23,what is the issue

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  • popdemonic
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    Originally posted by KRIENG
    yes same as me when we upgrade firmware but didn't read this link ( No. 5 )
    sorry we must tune VE again and ignition change too.

    I'm wrong with IAT 22-23 in one year. Thank for Pop told me.

    I'm think how many Vems I5 wrong.


    http://www.efiexpress.com/catalog/ar...?articles_id=6
    lol,as i told you there must be a lot folks having same issue since they forget to upload those patch files.

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  • KRIENG
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    yes same as me when we upgrade firmware but didn't read this link ( No. 5 )
    sorry we must tune VE again and ignition change too.

    I'm wrong with IAT 22-23 in one year. Thank for Pop told me.

    I'm think how many Vems I5 wrong.


    http://www.efiexpress.com/catalog/ar...?articles_id=6
    Last edited by KRIENG; 24 July 2012, 01:57.

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  • EBR
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    Originally posted by popdemonic
    Hey Billman,
    Here's the problem.recently oth of us has been running the VEMs w/o IAT working correctly
    Since we forgot to upload another 2 patch files.the IAT seems to show 20-23 C deg. Constantly.
    In this case,it means the ign/mat retard table was not working so after we have uploaded the
    2 patch files.we found out that our VE table needs to be tuning again.the upper right table is running way leaner
    than we had on stock IAT sensor.we're having some kinda detonation issue and we're sorting out the
    Proper ignition table and lambda target.we're living under tropical weather in Thailand.it's hotter almost
    Year which means we have less indense air and fuel quality.we have E10 E20 E85 fuel available.soon we're going to
    get tuning with E85 for the better detonation resisted and performance side.the problem is we don't know how to read and understand the
    Knock 0 1 2 3... Windows on the VEMs log view.how to identify the number if it's detonation or still on the safe side
    For that number.I need to be stay tuned for a while until I got the better and cover all regions on VE table.
    Sorry about the off topic, but I would like to ask you about the IAT problem you talk about because I have the same problem. VEMS always shows the same IAT, 23°C. What did you do to fix this?

    Thanks, Eiríkur

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  • Billman
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    yes here

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  • popdemonic
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    Thanks Billman.you posted on vemssupport?

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  • Billman
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    I posted it on vems forum to see what other think about the knock window graph and the coincidence with other events.

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  • Billman
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    Yes. You must check if in Primary Trigger settings/TDC after the trigger is correct?

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  • popdemonic
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    Originally posted by Billman
    what exactly?
    It's the timing light gun for checking the basic timing.

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  • Billman
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    what exactly?

    *I can see the picture now*
    Last edited by Billman; 23 July 2012, 08:15.

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