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  • Jamo
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    Originally posted by Error404
    The stock turbo simply will not flow enough volume of air to break 300 I don't think.
    You might get close, 280-290hp is a good figure on a cool day with decent software, free flowing exhaust and an efficient intercooler and everything in top working order. Dyno figures of course will vary so it is impossible to have a definitive figure.
    Yep dyno's vary widly, we've had Nip and Rusty do over 290 though on forum RR days infront of multiple witnesses on the original turbos

    Interesting questoin which is better exhaust or intercooler upgrade they have differnet effects on the car. I suppose the exhaust will have the biggest noticeable effect on a turbo car but lower IAT's from a good intercooler setup makes for a more timing via the ecu. Tough call ( or do both )

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  • AndyP
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    Originally posted by mac2226
    I don't think you will loose bhp
    So what did yours dyno at?

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  • mac2226
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    I don't think you will loose bhp

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  • Majorcina
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    Originally posted by Quattronaut
    That's exactly the range in between your HP will be depending on weather, overall motor condition and head porting quality.

    If you want to know it more accurate, find someone with complete stock S2 and and a chip tuning that is well known, e.g. MTM, ABT or someone else who has really established the HP numbers he gives, and go for a little hunt. Or compare to a complete stock RS2. Then you have reference points.
    If u belive be,there is none of s2 and rs2 in my country...There is 1 rs2 which is wrecked

    Originally posted by Error404
    The stock turbo simply will not flow enough volume of air to break 300 I don't think.
    You might get close, 280-290hp is a good figure on a cool day with decent software, free flowing exhaust and an efficient intercooler and everything in top working order. Dyno figures of course will vary so it is impossible to have a definitive figure.
    Some people told me that i will lose power on stock car with chips with 3'' exhaust?I was planing to put 1 silencer and rear mufler.
    So my question is that true or...?

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  • Error404
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    The stock turbo simply will not flow enough volume of air to break 300 I don't think.
    You might get close, 280-290hp is a good figure on a cool day with decent software, free flowing exhaust and an efficient intercooler and everything in top working order. Dyno figures of course will vary so it is impossible to have a definitive figure.

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  • Quattronaut
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    Originally posted by Majorcina
    My friend say it can have no more then 270hp,and my opinion is around 300hp
    That's exactly the range in between your HP will be depending on weather, overall motor condition and head porting quality.

    If you want to know it more accurate, find someone with complete stock S2 and and a chip tuning that is well known, e.g. MTM, ABT or someone else who has really established the HP numbers he gives, and go for a little hunt. Or compare to a complete stock RS2. Then you have reference points.
    Last edited by Quattronaut; 12 July 2014, 11:25.

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  • mac2226
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    Originally posted by UrS4boy
    And when you report your results, there will be a debate about what is the correct correction factor to go from wheel horsepower (whp) to crank horsepower (chp), yet again.
    That would be crank hp I'm expecting Urs4boy I think people get confused because of what they read till there car gets dyno but not all dyno read the same so that's another problem haha

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  • Majorcina
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    Originally posted by Quattronaut
    At stock motor 290 hp is not really reliable any more I think.

    There are too many unknown parameters to really say a precise HP number, so folks-let's start the hp-bingo :-)

    I do not think that prj's chips rev out turbo to the max (or does he? Jamo, you know him better...)
    I suppose only with the chips the motor would have ~260-270 hp, but with good porting and a good exhaust maybe overall up to 280-290, without giving to much stress for turbo, cause motor's efficiency should be better.

    IC and exhaust could help both, but not very much- charger is limited.

    What was your and your friend's opinion?
    My friend say it can have no more then 270hp,and my opinion is around 300hp

    Originally posted by mac2226
    I've got 3" tbe,hks mushroom air filter,roose tip custom ic and a homefry chip I'd say mines close to 300bhp just how well it pulls in gears at midrange. But will defiantly know for sure when it goes on the dyno tomorrow
    Please let me know the results Can do in inbox also

    Originally posted by popdemonic
    Marko,what octane fuel in Montenegro?average temp?any cars in my country put down lower in HP comparable with what's in the paper due to the
    temp,fuel quality in my country.

    Left,UrS6 automatic box with 1,9bar WG spring,264HP unknown chips.I have seen some of UrS had this chips from factory.
    Right,UrS6 automatic box with some custom tuned by anonymous.
    No wonder why i went from Automatik lol.

    Well,i am going to use 100 octane fuel,thats the best we have.In winder is not to much cold(almost never under zero)But on summer,for example last year was up to 42-43celzius

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  • UrS4boy
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    Oops.Double post. The system can be beat.

    Carry on, nothing to see here.

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  • popdemonic
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    Marko,what octane fuel in Montenegro?average temp?any cars in my country put down lower in HP comparable with what's in the paper due to the
    temp,fuel quality in my country.

    Left,UrS6 automatic box with 1,9bar WG spring,264HP unknown chips.I have seen some of UrS had this chips from factory.
    Right,UrS6 automatic box with some custom tuned by anonymous.
    No wonder why i went from Automatik lol.

    Last edited by popdemonic; 12 July 2014, 03:17.

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  • UrS4boy
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    Originally posted by mac2226
    I've got 3" tbe,hks mushroom air filter,roose tip custom ic and a homefry chip I'd say mines close to 300bhp just how well it pulls in gears at midrange. But will defiantly know for sure when it goes on the dyno tomorrow
    And when you report your results, there will be a debate about what is the correct correction factor to go from wheel horsepower (whp) to crank horsepower (chp), yet again.

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  • mac2226
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    I've got 3" tbe,hks mushroom air filter,roose tip custom ic and a homefry chip I'd say mines close to 300bhp just how well it pulls in gears at midrange. But will defiantly know for sure when it goes on the dyno tomorrow

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  • Quattronaut
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    At stock motor 290 hp is not really reliable any more I think.

    There are too many unknown parameters to really say a precise HP number, so folks-let's start the hp-bingo :-)

    I do not think that prj's chips rev out turbo to the max (or does he? Jamo, you know him better...)
    I suppose only with the chips the motor would have ~260-270 hp, but with good porting and a good exhaust maybe overall up to 280-290, without giving to much stress for turbo, cause motor's efficiency should be better.

    IC and exhaust could help both, but not very much- charger is limited.

    What was your and your friend's opinion?

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  • Rusty
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    Should be 290+ on good fuel... 'should'

    My car was on just a Home fries, Jamo, so nothing special. Think Martin F and Ben went a bit more aggressive.

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  • Majorcina
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    So is it bether to put 3inch exhaust or IC?

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