What grade stainless ?

[magarv]

isnt the lower grade stainless magnetic?

That is not always the case. It depends on type of SS steel.

It is correct that i.e. 304 is slightly more magnetic than 316. But materials like UNS S32750 wich is a very high grade SS steel and way better than 316 both regards to corrosion and material properties is magnetic due to the ferritic/austenitic structure.

The austenitic stainless steels like 304, 316, 321 etc are "non magnetic" , while ferritic/austenitic stainless steels like the different duplex grades are magnetic.

[HPmuirt]

but tell me this - is there an easy way to determine if a lump of stainless steel is 303 or 304 without taking it for expensive lab tests ?

Stick a tiny piece (a couple of mm only) in an envelope and post it to me - you have my address - and I'll tell you the exact chemical composition. I have a room full of scanning electron microscopes with x-ray detectors so I can measure the exact chemical composition to within thousandths of a percentage

That said, since I am not a metallurgist you'll then have to work out what that particular composition equates to in terms of ss grades but that should be easy on here.

Cheers n

Si

[Rusty]

I believe it is.

[oldskool]

isnt the lower grade stainless magnetic?

[benjo]

So will this 303 pipe (wall thickness is 1.5mm) serve me well as a CAT bypass ?

basically, yes

[Rusty]

Aye, Paul, might not be a permanent solution but as a cheap option to get the exhaust sorted for now, seems like a winner.

[JP]

I chopped the whole centre portion out of my exhaust from the downpipe and using a 2m length of 6082 1.6mm wall thickness aluminum. It's part reduced the drone on the motorway, quieter pootling around town, hasn't restricted flow and more importantly reduced the weight drastically. All I need to do is replace it every 3years at a cost of £25

[magarv]

So will this 303 pipe (wall thickness is 1.5mm) serve me well as a CAT bypass ?

Yes, I believe so.

[S2central.net]

I was being lazy with '316' - I realise the metalgurus need all the codes...

So will this 303 pipe (wall thickness is 1.5mm) serve me well as a CAT bypass ?

[magarv]

I don't need to weld this section - it will just form a straight link pipe / CAT bypass - so it is not going to be superheated either - as opposed to a downpipe.

I have read that 316 and 321 are superior materials but they are also more expensive - and thats not good for me right now - trying to do this on a tight budget.

Sorry I was thinking exhaust manifolds etc right away... And 316 are not superior to 304 in exhaust, it has to be 316Ti. Regular 316/316L cracks more easily than 304 etc when used at high temperatures

[magarv]

Thanks for that... kinda confirms my findings so far, but tell me this - is there an easy way to determine if a lump of stainless steel is 303 or 304 without taking it for expensive lab tests ?

If you know some one in the industry it is not necessary with any expensive lab tests anymore. The have "guns" that can identify materials and chemical compositions within seconds. http://www.niton.com/metal-and-alloy...aspx?sflang=en

But expensive equipment, and as I said you need to know someone I think...

[Audi Parts Guru]

Paul,

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Lots of good info on their website

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[S2central.net]

I don't need to weld this section - it will just form a straight link pipe / CAT bypass - so it is not going to be superheated either - as opposed to a downpipe.

I have read that 316 and 321 are superior materials but they are also more expensive - and thats not good for me right now - trying to do this on a tight budget.

[S2central.net]

OK - I got offered an offcut pipe from someone who believes it to be 303 so I dunno if its really suitable - unless all I need to do is paint it ???

What sort of wall thickness is considered minimum for an exhaust pipe ?

[magarv]

After what I can see 304 is a better choise for elevated tempereatures than 303 due to the higher sulphur content in 303.
From www.westyorkssteel.com: The higher sulphure content of 303 stainless steel gives the grade poor weldability and reduced formability compared with other austenitic stainless specifications.

I know it is not a part of your question but, 321 (and 316Ti) is the preferd material if you ask me due to that it is titanium stabilised. The titanium is stabilizing the material structure at elevated temperatures.
To comparison:
304: Heat tensile strenght (500oC):Rp0,2 = 105 N/mm2 Rp1,0 = 130 N/mm2
304L: Heat tensile strenght (500oC):Rp0,2 = 94 N/mm2 Rp1,0 = 119 N/mm2
321: Heat tensile strenght (500oC):Rp0,2 = 124 N/mm2 Rp1,0 = 159 N/mm2

I couldnt find any specifications regarding 303, but as you can see the 321 keeps the material properties much better at higher temperatures compared to 304.

You can read a little bit about the materials here: http://www.westyorkssteel.com/stainless_steel.html

My favorite site when it comes to exhaust materials delivery: www.burnsstainless.com