Impure Thoughts...

[Rusty]

As I do about once a week, I've spent the morning on the PH Classifieds site looking at just about any car that's within my imaginary budget (S2 + parts sale, about £7k) and that interests me There are 2 categories, 'toy' and 'daily' although the boundaries blur a lot with this one... as they currently do with the 318is and S2

As ever, the time honoured phrase 'the grass is always greener' is in contest with 'better the devil you know'... Anyway, VWs, BMs, Porsches, Mercs and Cossies have been the object of my pipe-dream desires along with classic Fords and lots more...

One day Audi's lack of support for their older models is going to push me over the edge, result being a new toy and someone else getting the alpinweiss to play with. Who knows when that will be, until then I'll leave the 944s, 968s, 190E 2.3-16s, M3s, 325iSs and 1001 other motors to drive around my head like a big ginger Nuerburgring

[dest]

Ive been to the other side, and this was my transport of choice!





I can highly recommend one, and would love another, but the missus isnt liking the idea at the moment!

[john johnson]

The only downside with a cossie is tinworm ( and finding a good honest one) mine was a pain and I had it from three years old. Went like fook tho

[dest]

I agree, mine was fine (had had a full respray by the previous owner) apart from the usual bit where they go on the front turret near the wing.
I loved it, but definitly not a car for someone that does'nt like attention!
They are also a good test of your nerves due to the theft factor, I hated leaving mine ANYWHERE

[john johnson]

Same here, it was belled up and wheel clamped, the lot... Would still love an escort cossie but most of them are sheds for the dough!

[Rusty]

A friend had a 3dr stage 1, it was insane, luckily said friend could drive it properly. Not sure I'd be up for that level of insanity after the realatively sober S2 (although mine's really not that sober any more). If I wanted a trackday hero car then it woud be high up the list :mischeif:

I was thinking to myself that if I get a car then it's got to last another 5 years. If Audi parts were available then there's 5 years' enjoyment left in projekt alpinweiss but if they go the same was as the B2 cars and all the parts are secondhand then I'm not so keen, I think my money would be going on a 944S2, 968S or 968CS

[dest]

A stage 1 cossie is no more powerful than a homefried S2!
I cant remember the weight of a 3 door, but a 4x4 saph is about 200kg lighter than an S2, so that obviously plays a part.
Stage 3 is where the fun starts, around 330bhp

[Rusty]

It's about 1250 for a 3 door I think. I usually ended up in it on a wet 'fun' drive, hence my impression of it was lunacy, never pointing in the right direction for more than a fraction of a second at a time. Was the same speed as the S2 30-100 in a straight line when de-tuned to 260-270 and the S2 was running 297 but was fully clothed. It was the hilarious oversteer that could be summoned (or summoned itself) that makes me refer to it as insane.

[dest]

Its also the reason a lot of 2wd saphs get killed!
If I got another, Id have to go for 2wd

[Rusty]

The BM is a little hairy with a mere 160bhp, although the E30 isn't as progressive as the Sierra chassis from what I've hear/read/seen.

[dest]

There isnt much progressive about a cossie, its a 20+ year old Sierra remember!
The only downside to them is exactly that, they do feel very dated, especially the dash.
But to counter that, you of couse have the excellent Recaro's

[dest]

PS. Why are these thoughts impure? Because they are not Audi's?
Personally I dont understand badge whores, so many people instantly write off a car simply because it does'nt have their favourite badge on the front... why is that?
For me, if a car is good, its good. It does'nt matter what the badge says!

[Acidburn]

See your point about parts availibility, when vagparts (Rip) was open martyn was warning me not to get a ur q as virtually nothing is available now, not ever general service parts unless you go to some specialists (pete reeve etc) in the end. In the end I now have a ur quattro and tbh its not too bad for finding parts, waiting to see what its like as its lighter than an s2. If I didn't have that then it would be probably as dests picture has shown another sierra, or at a stretch a escort cosworth.

[Rusty]

Title was a little tongue in cheek, one make forum and all that, obviously went over your head

[dest]

Only because there ARE too many badge whores...