Digital economy bill

[dest]

WTF is going on here?!
For those that have been avoiding the news, it is a new bill that allows your internet connection to be disconnected if you are suspected of copyright infringement, ie downloading illegal copies of films, software, music, etc.
You not not even have to be proven to of done this, just suspected!
3 strikes and you are cut off.
This also means YOU are responsible too, so for example, if your neighbour is using your wifi connection without you knowing, and they download illegal files, YOU are disconnected, even though you are not aware they were doing it!
This also applies to public wifi spots too, such as cafes, mcdonalds, schools, libraries etc.

Obviously there are easy ways around this if you are net savvy and understand things like spoof IP's, encripted data and so forth, so the people that download the most are pretty safe anyway!

Aside of all of that, what is also alarming, is that to get this new bill passed in parliament, only an average of 15 MP's at any one time were actually there to discuss and sort it out. Less than 5% of all MP's actually voted on whether it should be passed or not!
So how exactly is that representing all of us if msot of them cannot be bothered to vote or even show up

[dest]

I should also add, to find out if you are downloading things you should'nt be, your ISP will have to do "deep packet inspections" on all of your data, how do you fancy that?!

[Flat on my back]

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External hard drive for me it is then...

[Jamo]

That's if ISP's play ball, Talk Talk have already told them to stick it

[dest]

That's if ISP's play ball, Talk Talk have already told them to stick it

Theyve got to do something to get more customers

[GazzaG60]

ISP's are basically liable for content they supply. thats why they stand off.

im sure we may see a time when we have to use an upsteam proxy.

for now i think we are safe. if they want you they will get you now. spooof/no spoof/ fake proxy whatever. either that or mandatory reverse lookup will become the norm.

i recollect when the 128bit encrypted nt4 sp6a was released. reason only that high was US could read 128bit on the fly back then.128 was not available in france as they could only do 64bit.

the answer is dont download if you dont own the original.

[dest]

the answer is dont download if you dont own the original.

You are missing the point!
You dont actually have to of downloaded anything, even if they just SUSPECT you MAY of done it, that is enough to get a strike towards being disconnected

[Jamo]

I can see a boom in mobile pay as you go dongles..............

[dest]

Do they have the transfer rates needed to download films etc though?

[irishs2]

Yep, on my 3g usb I get 250-320kB/s enough to download 130mb mkv in about 7-10mins. Limited to 15gb a month though.

[GazzaG60]

they have the transfer but drop connectivity. accelorators that resume are needed.

i cant see how this will hold any water. proof is still essential. simple as.

i know from running a business IT for an european company that manufactures in china and bridges manufacture in hong kong and the 35k e-mails my firewalls and proxies block per day we would be subject to disconnection before i have finished this post.

china constantly developes systems to get things through. they now break up mail messages into x segments all sent seperatley and the mesage reforms on arrival of all parts. a good stateful inspection firewall will see this.

[GazzaG60]

also about 80% of all websites link to the biggest ad provider akmai. blocking this reduced our web traffic by 65% but had a knock on effect of producing wap on ie for a few websites. must be how the programmers trigger it.

[dest]

i cant see how this will hold any water. proof is still essential. simple as.

You know that, I know that, everyone knows that.
BUT, the bill says they do NOT need proof, simple as that!
Basically, disconnection without trial

[GazzaG60]

it will never go through. human rights bill will stop it.

[Jamo]

It has already gone through http://www.broadbandgenie.co.uk/news...t-commons-rush

Go Talk Talk! http://www.broadbandgenie.co.uk/news...l-economy-bill