Interesting observation by US team on the 3LIONS.

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  • panzerwagen
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Feb 2004
    • 900
    • Country: United States

    #1

    Interesting observation by US team on the 3LIONS.



    It seems others in the media saw that too. Now there are rumors that David James and his reps are pushing Cappello to make a crucial change. Seems logical. Green can not be trusted. The English can not afford another tie or loss.
  • Fat Audi 80
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    • Jan 2004
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    • Country: England

    #2
    They always are, that is our problem. High expectations driven by the English media and fuelled by the fans.

    When we are confident we are brillant, when we are scared we are rubbish. I guess some of that is "Englishness" perhaps.

    I believe we will win the next two games comfortably and then face the real test(s)

    I think Green is a good keeper, and to axe him now would finish his world cup. Personally I would have started James if fit or Joe Hart, who is young and inexperienced at top level but a brilliant shot stopper and keeper.

    Cheers,

    Steve.
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    • Audi Parts Guru
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      • Jul 2003
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      #3
      Originally posted by Fat Audi 80
      They always are, that is our problem. High expectations driven by the English media and fuelled by the fans.

      When we are confident we are brillant, when we are scared we are rubbish. I guess some of that is "Englishness" perhaps.

      I believe we will win the next two games comfortably and then face the real test(s)
      I have to agree with the comments above, although I do believe that Robert Green is the right man for the job. He made a mistake which he has rightly admitted. But lets face it, we ALL make mistakes in life, and David James is certainly no exception.

      Having said that, I'm confident that England will do what it takes and win the next 2 games and qualify for the next round
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      • Fat Audi 80
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        • Jan 2004
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        #4
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        • Jamo
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          • Mar 2004
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          #5
          I'd rather finish Green's world cup than Englands world cup, you cannot play him in the next game the opposition will shoot from anywhere

          Either Hart of James must start in the next game

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          • GazzaG60
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            • Mar 2007
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            #6
            let them shoot isay.

            what green needs is to get behind a few shots to warm up. this is the best confidence builder.

            lets face it the americans didn't have many shots. green had to wake up first before trying to save that ball.

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            • Fat Audi 80
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              • Jan 2004
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              • Country: England

              #7
              I really have no idea how he missed it. I think it was "just one of those things". However, one mistake does not mean you have to right off your goalie.

              Who knows who Capello will pick for the next game...
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              • richardk
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                • Sep 2009
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                #8
                same with the dutch.. all the past european and world soccer games they play like champions, like last eu 2008 ( against italy 3-0, against france 4-1)
                they had the chance to win again ( then against russia( guus hiddink ) they simply loose) and in 1998 they deserved also the win. 2006 also.

                they play brilliant football but the german last minute drive they lack.
                hope the dutch will come far this wc. ( despite van the man ( ruud van nistelrooy) is not selected)

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                • PistonBroke
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                  • Dec 2008
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                  #9
                  I don't think it was a disgrace to draw with the USA. A few years ago it might have been a bit embarasing but in the Confederations cup last year the USA beat Spain 2-0 in the semi finals and were 2-0 up against Brazil in the final before losing 3-2.
                  They are a decent team and I thought they played very well on Saturday, they really battled and didn't give us much space, particularly in mid-field. If you look at the game as a whole I think we were unlucky not to win it. I think they only had one really clear cut chance on goal which Greene managed to deflect onto the post, skill or luck who knows but he kept it out.

                  We had a lot more chances, particularly in the second half and if it wasn't for the mistake we would have won 1-0. That would have done, nobody would have complained too much about the performance which wasn't great but was good enough to win. As far as Greene is concerned he could face that shot a 100 times and he would have stopped it no problem - it's just one of those things that can and does happen to any goalkeeper, and that includes James, Seaman etc etc. Doesn't make him a bad goal keeper, in fact the chances of it happening to him anytime soon must be less now!

                  Anyway we usually have some kind of crazy moment in the World Cup - Beckham or Rooney sent off, a goal keeping clanger - maybe it's not a bad thing to get it out of the way now!
                  Problem is we have such high expectations (or the media has) and always have to look for someone to blame when things don't go as well as we think it should - always wanting to criticise the manager etc. That's always easy in hindsight of course, why can't we just accept that they are all doing their best and we are never going to get everything our own way. It's a game at the end of the day and it's not always the best team that wins, luck has a lot to do with it.

                  Incidentally, anyone noticed that the ball in all the games seems to behave oddly. For example I have never seen so many long passes where the receiving player initially looks like they are going to get to it quite easily and then the ball just bounces over their heads and out of play or just skims off the surface much faster than you would expect. There have also been a lot of free kicks and long range shots that have disappeared high over the bar - very few if any long range shots have actually gone in. There was some discussion on the radio today about this very subject. Maybe it wasn't Mr Greene's fault after all !

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                  • martinjs
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                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3205
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    James didnt get the name 'calamity' for nothing did he?.....

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