Started a site

[A80Avant]

No, you certainly do not feel it when driving the car.

Good, as I used to have similar graphs on the older setups, nothing felt only on graphs were they represented

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[QuattroFever]

You need a dyno quattro. There us no way around it. That and a pair of knock hearing headphones. Anyone can stare at the maps on vems, but it still needs the dyno.

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Feel uneasy tuning ignition on FI car. Someone who's done a few s2's on stock engine might know roughly where things go wrong and when to say enough is enough rather than tune to max limit.
i worry by the time i worked out what knock sounds like i have a ££££ smoke machine.

[A80Avant]

I tuned mine with the help of marc's electronic knock sensing phones and a base map. I'm not a toner, and if I can do it, then almost anyone can in this forum! !

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[Billman]

I tuned mine with the help of marc's electronic knock sensing phones and a base map. I'm not a toner, and if I can do it, then almost anyone can in this forum! !

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Isn't a toner the ink thing on laserjet printers and copy machines?? :-p

[prj]

Problem with VEMS is, that it does not really have proper knock detection.
Although, it has WBO2 closed loop fuelling, so if it goes lean, you'll probably know...

I am a bit touchy feely with mapping stuff without good knock closed loop on FI.
Sure, it will be fine after mapping, but what will happen a few years down the road?
Or if you map on 99 and then fill 95?

[A80Avant]

Isn't a toner the ink thing on laserjet printers and copy machines?? :-p

Haha, see the phone always likes to white whatever it wants regardless!

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[A80Avant]

Problem with VEMS is, that it does not really have proper knock detection.
Although, it has WBO2 closed loop fuelling, so if it goes lean, you'll probably know...

I am a bit touchy feely with mapping stuff without good knock closed loop on FI.
Sure, it will be fine after mapping, but what will happen a few years down the road?
Or if you map on 99 and then fill 95?

Simple! You do 2 maps!

In any case knock will hopefully be soon available on vems.
Having said that, as I have mentioned before, I had audible knock on mine, while on motronic and there was no detection from it. So even if the system is there, you can still go wrong. The best solution is not to tune to the edge.

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[prj]

Simple! You do 2 maps!

In any case knock will hopefully be soon available on vems.
Having said that, as I have mentioned before, I had audible knock on mine, while on motronic and there was no detection from it. So even if the system is there, you can still go wrong. The best solution is not to tune to the edge.

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If there was no detection knock sensors were installed wrong, the timing was WAY overadvanced (all maps tuned the same), so it could not correct enough or the knock detection maps were disabled/not tuned correctly.
I can say that with full confidence. Never had a single car that I tuned, that could not see knock and react to it. Except of course ones that had nice chips with disabled knock maps.
Really, not a single one, so 100% something was wrong with your car/tune.

[A80Avant]

i dont disagree, but other than tuning, you can still have a problem with a knock sensor that could eventually cause a problem. I know that on motronic, any ECU detectable issue with a knock sensor may put you into limp mode, but there are numerous of occasions where ECU is not 'aware', doesnt throw a code etc. So all im saying in regards to knock is that better safer tune than sorry!

[Thuppu]

Nice looking site. Had to bookmark it...

[Phil Payne]

And no, I did not put it there myself, don't jump to conclusions please.

Where did I say you had? What was that about jumping to conclusions?

[prj]

Where did I say you had? What was that about jumping to conclusions?

This post came across that way:

<a·href="http://www.onlinepoker.uk.com"·class="fl"><span·class="fl ">online·poker</span></a>

Hidden link to an online gambling site?

Bye, bye - nice knowing you. Wondered why Google was reporting PageRank as 'N/A'.

There was no page rank because Google had not indexed the site yet. I told the crawler to do so via webmaster tools and to target UK users.

[Thuppu]

Ohh NOOOoooo, a gambling site!!? Well, the world is falling apart now fore sure.

[prj]

Number plates have been removed.
Now need to replace the Sofa with something else

[Phil Payne]

Ohh NOOOoooo, a gambling site!!? Well, the world is falling apart now fore sure.

It doesn't really matter what sort of site it is, or even really that it's a site at all. The problem is that it was hidden.

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769&&hl=en

If you scroll down to "Quality guidelines - specific guidelines" you'll find the first one is:

"Avoid hidden text or hidden links."

That's a link - click on it you'll be taken to:

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66353

Scroll down that again and you'll find:

"If your site is perceived to contain hidden text and links that are deceptive in intent, your site may be removed from the Google index, and will not appear in search results pages. When evaluating your site to see if it includes hidden text or links, look for anything that's not easily viewable by visitors of your site. Are any text or links there solely for search engines rather than visitors?"

prj's link to a poker site was hidden. Google has just updated its algorithms (search on 'google panda') and greatly increased the probability that a site with hidden text or links will be excluded from Google.

I actually thought I might be helping, but I've learnt my lesson.