Lance Armstrong- who feels what?

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  • Tango23
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    • Jun 2010
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    #16
    A nice range of opinions- everyone of which has its' merits. Nice exposure for the sport an to potentially name and shame those involved in the cheating.

    Personally as a former serviceman, someone whom serves their country- ultimately serves you! They do not choose the wars (that is the politicians job) but, they do go to the frontline in support of your government. I firmly believe that a front page tribute to the fallen is the least which any "newspaper" can do!

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    • 1781cc
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      • Nov 2011
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      #17
      PEDs are commonplace in high level sport, masking agents, samples and cycles can help you avoid detection, HGH is hard to detect because of its natural presence in the body anyway, people's levels vary dramatically and sportsmen have higher ratios due to increased muscle mass and testosterone production, that said, testosterone is a minefield as well...

      Unless you actively undertake VADA testing during your sporting career by randomised and scheduled testing you are largely free to get away with it, especially if you are successful and can afford synthetic designer drugs with a short half life...

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      • martinws
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        • Oct 2008
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        #18
        I think he is an idiot for lying for so long and taking folk to court for telling on.him when he was guilty all along. I would like to see a bike race where drugs were incouraged? That could be an interesting concept.

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        • Colesy
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          • Feb 2009
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          #19
          Cheating for so long and being so successful just makes a mockery of him and the sport.

          I think there should be a life time ban for all dopers as some drugs are bound to give a long term benefit as well as short term. So letting dopers back into the sport after 2 or 3 years is completely unfair on other athletes.

          But I also think that all sports should have drug free competitions and ones where steroids are encouraged. Imagine the spectacle that the steroid olympics would be! People who've spend their whole life taking steroids, now that would be entertainment!

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          • Rocco
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            #20
            All sports are infected

            Look the NBA,football...

            And Leo messi.... He was taking drugs and hormones for a long time to can grow up....as without this he would be now tiny and more like Willow
            Now thanks to past cheats he is stronger,faster and never gets injured
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            • Le S2 Audi
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              #21
              Fecker should be sent out to Afghanistan at told to search for IAD's on his bike with a yellow jersey for easy target practice...

              Total Liar & Cheat - I totally looked up to his guy and what he achieved after having cancer - What a roll model he turned out to be....

              Who Sued so many after they dare to suggest he was a cheat & has committed perjury in the courts...

              I just hope people like Wiggo don't fall from grace in the same manner...

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              • DeanG
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                #22
                I agree it's completely unforgiveable that he took people to court and committed perjury...

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                • europeanme
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                  #23
                  anyone remember Marco Pantini??....got banned for drugs didn't get all this publicity and he won the yellow jersey....Alberto Contador who won the Tour of Spain in 2012 had the yellow jersey taken from him in 2010 due to doping....Floyd Landis - 2007....I won't go on...

                  I'm sorry, being a cyclist for the last 20 years, granted MTB not road racing, you get to hear/read of all the "goings on" whos taking what...is there really that much of a difference in the performance?....

                  I do agree with some of the points made and I am generally disappointed in what has ben suspected for years....



                  on a seperate sport what about Rio Ferdinand failing to turn up for a drugs text, convenient or what.....and he never appeared on daytime telly!!...

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                  • europeanme
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                    • Oct 2005
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Dan
                    Don't see why he gets in the paper.

                    I take drugs and ride my bike all the time.

                    Don't do much for performance, but it's a **** load more fun after a couple of joints.
                    I bet your a mountain biker!!....

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                    • Rocco
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                      • Aug 2007
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                      #25
                      Marco Pantani was the best

                      RIP Marco¡¡

                      PD: and dont forget Mr "perfect" Pep Guardiola... who was discovered as drug addict in the enf of his professional sport life when he was playing in BRESCIA

                      or il bello Cannavaro... drug addict too and golden ball in 2006 because the Italy world championship ....
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                      • andy10v
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by martinws
                        II would like to see a bike race where drugs were incouraged? That could be an interesting concept.
                        Yeah, open rules sports, Ussain bolt can run 100m in 10s, lets see somebody do it in 5s?
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                        • Dan
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by andy10v
                          Yeah, open rules sports, Ussain bolt can run 100m in 10s, lets see somebody do it in 5s?
                          It's a testament to the success of modern drug science, surely?
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                          • Tango23
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                            #28
                            Labolympics sponsored by Phizer! lol

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                            • darkhorse1210
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by europeanme
                              anyone remember Marco Pantini??....got banned for drugs didn't get all this publicity and he won the yellow jersey....

                              I remember him, yeah and mainly because he was found dead in a hotel room on his own surrounded by drugs and booze at a very young age, at least he didn't lie through his teeth like LA did though, looks like his guilt got to him before he had chance to...

                              on a seperate sport what about Rio Ferdinand failing to turn up for a drugs text, convenient or what.....and he never appeared on daytime telly!!...
                              Rio is just thick, let's be honest, LA isn't thick, he's a manipulative sh^t. There are some good books out there if anyone wants to read about this in more detail check out the books written by David Walsh, it makes you realise what a nasty piece of work LA is, lying, stabbing people in the back, paying people off, literally spitting in the faces of other riders (nice)

                              The Oprah interview (which I haven't yet seen) has got to be another one of his PR exercises, nothing more than that, he doesn't regret anything

                              Deep breath.....

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                              • Rusty
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                                • Jun 2004
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                                #30
                                Is a chill pill banned by the UCI though?
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