no more free payments on paypal

[Error404]

AFAIK "gift" or "personal" payments are still free as long as you already have the funds in your paypal account

[epic]

Thats how I saw it when i looked earlier. Still free as long as the money is in your account.

Not free if you use a debit card.

Received some money tonight for no charge and the sender didn't pay either

[Trist28]

For two internet based businesses with relatively low overheads I feel the fees could be cheaper. Sellers do the adds so really ebay is just a front end site for a client populated database. And as for paypal payments (non gift) does changing numbers in an account with no real work of any kind warrant such a high fee? AFAIK ebay/paypal are owned by hedge funds!! If you have paypal balance who gets the interest on all that cash??

But I get your point too, but they have a monopoly!

i sent a gift payment a couple of days ago and it was free at both ends.

is ebay/paypal's 15% total charge really that unreasonable or should they let people sell stuff for free?
it doesn't seem too bad to get items to a national audience.

[SE_30]

If you don't have the money in the paypal account and you don't want either party paying for the transfer then use the Echeque option. Takes 4/5 working days to clear in to the vendors account.

[s2_bo]

Thats interesting that you guys are still able to send free payments.
I think it must be todo with me login in from france.
Even though its all coming from a UK account and going to a uk account when i sent to payment i only have two options:

For what reason do you send money?
I pay for goods or services
and
I send money to my family or my friends

Both incur charges.

[JP]

I send a gift from uk to us on mon. No charges either side
My paypal is linked to my bank account so I don't need to hold funds in my paypal account. If however there is insufficient funds in the bank account and it goes to the back up debit card they charge. So I always make sure funds are in the correct bank account before proceeding with the transaction.

[Ross]

I haven't tried using ebay in a long time. I'd rather go for a sale on gumtree - seems to be less hassle with buyers, believe it or not! Plus the fees got too steep. If it was profitable on 5% why push it to 10%, for any reason other than to increase profits?

At the end of the day it's a business but you can't help thinking they have the market share so bumped up the fees. If everyone stopped using it they'd have to bring it down, but that's not the case, so from a business perspective they made the right choice.

As for paypal, would be shame as it seems to be spreading to alot of e-stores (even my local Indian now accept an online order with paypal) but I'll always go for the credit card option. It's protected me from losing money a few times...

[quattrito]

Yes, they both are keen to take nice fees. That's the biggest minus with selling on eBay.

Remember some time ago, one dude from Germany sent me money and he hadn't got an option to mark it as gift, and the fee was taken from me either way. :dunno:

[Biggss2]

[QUOTE Ebay are *******s, 10% up to a maximum final value fee of £75 is just too much...[/QUOTE]

Say you are selling a car or anything to qualify for the top tier FVF rate, providing the person actually buys your item, Split the FVF in 2 (Give him half) and agree to cancel the transaction on ebay, meaning no FVF will apply. You will be suprised at the amount of times i have bought and sold high value items, only to be given or to give £20.00 (when it was 10% max £40.00 FVF rate) and cancel the transaction!

everyones happy... except ebay

[s2_bo]

[QUOTE Ebay are *******s, 10% up to a maximum final value fee of £75 is just too much...

Say you are selling a car or anything to qualify for the top tier FVF rate, providing the person actually buys your item, Split the FVF in 2 (Give him half) and agree to cancel the transaction on ebay, meaning no FVF will apply. You will be suprised at the amount of times i have bought and sold high value items, only to be given or to give £20.00 (when it was 10% max £40.00 FVF rate) and cancel the transaction!

everyones happy... except ebay [/QUOTE]

I agree that this is the best way to do it and always encourage it but some people are unhappy to do that for various reasons.
Usually because they then invalidate the buyer protection and think your trying to scam them...
At least at the moment you can still get away with it even if they have checked out through paypal. Im sure that will end soon too and ebay will recognise that paypal was used to send payment and they wont honer the cancellation unless payment is returned..