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  • turbodriver63
    S2Forum Addict
    • Apr 2010
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    #1

    Bargain diesel estate choices...

    In a week or two from now I intend to buy a cheap diesel estate to get me about until I can afford a decent motor.
    I intend to only spend about £1000 - £1400 or so.
    I think I have it narrowed down to a 2000 - 2003 skoda octavia TDI or a late B5 A4 tdi 1.9.
    My main reason for these two is they deliver good mpg and are reasonably tough (if they have been maintained well by previous owners)
    Has anyone any ideas of other/better cars I'm missing that are around that price + reliability and has space for carrying tools and some light timber etc.
    Any help greatly appreciated
    84 URQ 20VT
    95 avant 80 TDI
    87 CQ
  • Cottis
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Feb 2011
    • 1448
    • Country: England

    #2
    THe Octavias are bone shakers in my experience. Good a solid for what you want it to but you feel all the bumps on the road. A4 would be better if you can find a decent one for the money in my opinion.

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    • K Simmonds
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Dec 2007
      • 7637
      • Country: Wales

      #3
      B5 Passats are pretty much as good as B5 A4's IMO.
      1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
      1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
      1994 MTM RS2.
      1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
      2000 B5 TQS.

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      • rj scotty
        S2Forum Fiend
        • May 2006
        • 2195
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

        #4
        80 tdi estates change hands for next to **** all
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        "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
        BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

        1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
        1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
        2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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        • shaun5
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Mar 2007
          • 1610
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Originally posted by rj scotty
          80 tdi estates change hands for next to **** all
          I second that, you will save yourself money so if something does go wrong with it you can repair it or upgrade wheels / S2 front bumper / brakes etc

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          • bluequattro
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Nov 2004
            • 2960
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Discovery tdi
            Plenty space for stuff and it will keep you mobile in inter snow better than the others (I'm buying a few ready for winter)

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            • anthonys2
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Mar 2009
              • 3512
              • Country: England

              #7
              I would recommend an A4 they are ultra reliable good economy and just keep going. I have a 53 plate A4 1.9TDI Quattro Sport 130bhp and it is approaching 240k miles its my daily work horse and to be honest I was thinking of changing so I got a new A4 and am selling the new one and keeping the older one as its much better and more economical so A4 gets my vote plenty about just make sure its been well maintained

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              • s2driveruk
                Super Moderator
                • Jul 2003
                • 12696
                • Country: England

                #8
                just be ultra-ultra careful on the service history of the pdi's - they can be crippling if they go wrong. My A6 1.9tdi cost me £5k on two separate head problems and injectors. with a full, specialist and dealer history

                Was a great car when on song and superbly comfortable....however build quality wasn't a patch on the S2 if honest and the s2 cost less to run over the same period (excluding fuel)
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                1992 3b S2 Coupe

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                • Cottis
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 1448
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Originally posted by anthonys2
                  I would recommend an A4 they are ultra reliable good economy and just keep going. I have a 53 plate A4 1.9TDI Quattro Sport 130bhp and it is approaching 240k miles its my daily work horse and to be honest I was thinking of changing so I got a new A4 and am selling the new one and keeping the older one as its much better and more economical so A4 gets my vote plenty about just make sure its been well maintained
                  I have recently looked at a couple of A4 TDI Quattros (1.9 PD) and could not find one that was approaching good nick. I reckon all the good ones are hung on to tightly by their grateful owners like you say. A good one on the 2nd hand market is rare as rocking horse ****. I decided to hang on to my trusty little Citroen Volcane for another winter. 200k and still going strong but no 4WD so the back roads are fun

                  Back to OP, forgot about Passats. Rarely do you find an owner who isn't happy with them. Probably cheaper than Audi's too and faster than a Quattro PDi. Possibly a bigger boot also.

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                  • anthonys2
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                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3512
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Cottis
                    I have recently looked at a couple of A4 TDI Quattros (1.9 PD) and could not find one that was approaching good nick. I reckon all the good ones are hung on to tightly by their grateful owners like you say. A good one on the 2nd hand market is rare as rocking horse ****. I decided to hang on to my trusty little Citroen Volcane for another winter. 200k and still going strong but no 4WD so the back roads are fun

                    Back to OP, forgot about Passats. Rarely do you find an owner who isn't happy with them. Probably cheaper than Audi's too and faster than a Quattro PDi. Possibly a bigger boot also.
                    I think the Passat is about the same size as an A6 and I've been told they're good cars I think your right about the A4's despite mine having a very high mileage because I know its history am keeping mine for another 2-3 years and by then it will have reached 300k miles and its been round the Nurburgring to!!!!

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                    • turbodriver63
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                      • Apr 2010
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                      #11
                      thanks for the advice so far guys
                      Keep it coming if you have anymore
                      I was just on fleabay and it seems there's one Audi 80 tdi estate with a suspiciously low mileage.
                      Damaged drivers door, but that's an easy swap.
                      I'm really liking the idea of an S2 rep work horse.
                      What are the 80s like?
                      I'd assume they would be as economic as a more modern motor and probably bomb proof.
                      84 URQ 20VT
                      95 avant 80 TDI
                      87 CQ

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                      • Cottis
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 1448
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        Engines get a bit sweaty on them but what diesel isn't. Older cars will need bits and bobs replacing but if it runs well and sounds good and normal things check out ok, it is hardly an expensive punt.

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                        • SteveH
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 4460
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          I've had a few PD Passats and I can't fault them. Ultra reliable if serviced every 10K with decent oil and filters. B5.5's have better build quality and fuel consumption than the B6
                          91 Modded 3B
                          14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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                          • turbodriver63
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Apr 2010
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                            #14
                            Actually really starting to sway towards an 80 avant tdi.
                            Street cred (once it gets a few choice mods) and economy all in a cool 90's German style
                            84 URQ 20VT
                            95 avant 80 TDI
                            87 CQ

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                            • darkhorse1210
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • May 2010
                              • 335
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Originally posted by turbodriver63
                              Actually really starting to sway towards an 80 avant tdi.
                              Street cred (once it gets a few choice mods) and economy all in a cool 90's German style
                              I'm no expert on this but what about a BMW E34 525 TDS?

                              http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=814818

                              I had an E34 535i Sport Saloon and it was built like a tank, they reckon it's one of the most over engineered cars of all time.....

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