Forumla 1 - who is Hamilton driving for?

[Rocco]

Kevin Magnussen
1 st F1 race and did a 3 place
Great Dane

With the probably current 2nd best car is not too rare

[UrS4boy]

Pending appeal....

I wonder a) where the stewards got their data and b) what can the appeal be based on.

If a) is measuring the fuel left in the tank, the appeal could be based on "they didn't measure properly"

If a) is based on telemetry data from Red Bull, the appeal could be based on "the data is wrong, measure the fuel left". (See above)

(Repeat ad nauseum)

[AndyP]

I wonder a) where the stewards got their data and b) what can the appeal be based on.

If a) is measuring the fuel left in the tank, the appeal could be based on "they didn't measure properly"

If a) is based on telemetry data from Red Bull, the appeal could be based on "the data is wrong, measure the fuel left". (See above)

(Repeat ad nauseum)

All the cars are fitted with an FAI supplied fuel flow sensor, this is where the data comes from. Horner was saying that a number of them had failed during the weekend and that they'd also been giving spurious readings, hence the reason for the appeal.

Seems like a s**t way to get kicked out, exceeding the 100Kg/hr fuel flow limit, boring!!

Anyway, Vettel out with a boost leak and Hamilton had a failed coil pack on cyl 5, anybody want to invite them to join the forum

[Sonic]

From what Horner said it sounded like their sensors had given them different data to the FIA sensors running in parallel, hence the appeal, and that the FIA sensors had been unreliable and in some other cases not used at all due to failure in some competitors.

It does seem ****ing ridiculous that not only is there an overall fuel limit, but also a fuel-flow limit at any point on the track. This is Formula 1 for christ sake, it's supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport, not Greenpeace Racing Series

Oh, and they sound like my siamese cat being swung around in circles... MMMEEEOOOOOOWWWW as they fly past. Absolutely ****.

[Ian Simmonds]

From what Horner said it sounded like their sensors had given them different data to the FIA sensors running in parallel, hence the appeal, and that the FIA sensors had been unreliable and in some other cases not used at all due to failure in some competitors.

It does seem ****ing ridiculous that not only is there an overall fuel limit, but also a fuel-flow limit at any point on the track. This is Formula 1 for christ sake, it's supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport, not Greenpeace Racing Series

Oh, and they sound like my siamese cat being swung around in circles... MMMEEEOOOOOOWWWW as they fly past. Absolutely ****.

Agreed, not only do they sound dreadful, they're also admitting the fuel saving formula criteria set nearly 5 years ago has been comprehensively surpassed, so rather than teams looking to save fuel, they're looking to burn it off needlessly to reduce weight, or, later in the season, start with less than full, and balance the rest with weight...

Whatever they do, its as interesting as watching two vicars argue over the parish hymn sheets....

[Bowie69]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112967

As usual, more complex than it first appears.

[UrS4boy]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112967 As usual, more complex than it first appears.

I feel bad for Riccardo. First he thinks he has his first ever podium, on home turf yet, and then somebody takes it all away from him for reasons that he had no control over. Must be gutted.

I feel good for Jensen Button. Too bad he didn't get to stand on the podium.

[Jamo]

Red bull at fault here though, told to replace sensor - they didn't, told during the race to alter fuel flow - they didn't then they wonder why they get the book thrown at them.
I would also imagine the cars weight before and after was taken into account as well as fuel flow

[Henkjan]

The engine sound is terrible...

absolutely, it sounds worse than a 1980's PC racing game.

Anyway, Vettel out with a boost leak and Hamilton had a failed coil pack on cyl 5, anybody want to invite them to join the forum

[s2driveruk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKu8kBYuMnY

if you hairs don't tingle on your arms then you are dead...much like F1 today after watching last nights...they sound sooo bad

[AndyP]

Red bull at fault here though, told to replace sensor - they didn't, told during the race to alter fuel flow - they didn't then they wonder why they get the book thrown at them.
I would also imagine the cars weight before and after was taken into account as well as fuel flow

It says in the Autosport article that they were told to re-fit a sensor that had already been removed once due to inconsistant readings! I would have done exactly what Horner did and ignore them and fight it after

[Ross]

Qualifying was more interesting than the race I think. I was quite looking forward to it and felt a it let down. Not as much drama or overtaking as hoped. Seeing Bottas come up through the field in the Williams was good to see. I do think it's good seeing the drivers fighting the cars a bit more with a bit less downforce and more torque, but on the flip side frustrating when they are struggling due to the feel of 'drive by wire' braking etc.

The sound is much too muted and quite a contrast with the high-revving shrill V8. I'd be interested to hear in the flesh, reports are they sound better from the track side, but it's pretty obvious the thing is never going to have the same occasion. I think my RS2 sounds better

The DQ is a disappointment and it will be interesting to see what the outcome is - I don't see the FIA backing down though, even if the breach ends up being more of a failing to comply with the regulatory demands.

[vonbeck]

From what Horner said it sounded like their sensors had given them different data to the FIA sensors running in parallel, hence the appeal, and that the FIA sensors had been unreliable and in some other cases not used at all due to failure in some competitors.

It does seem ****ing ridiculous that not only is there an overall fuel limit, but also a fuel-flow limit at any point on the track. This is Formula 1 for christ sake, it's supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport, not Greenpeace Racing Series

Oh, and they sound like my siamese cat being swung around in circles... MMMEEEOOOOOOWWWW as they fly past. Absolutely ****.

Now then I'm from the Siamese protection agency and on no account must they been swung round in circles as it makes them sick and very dizzy


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[Duffelcoat]

Maybe check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EctHizz_yNo

I wont comment, on the driver skill, input level but it is fairly evident - opps I just did

[Sonic]

Now then I'm from the Siamese protection agency and on no account must they been swung round in circles as it makes them sick and very dizzy.

Yep - but she's always purring when you put her down and she's clinging to the floor or bumping into walls like she's pissed