Scottish independance

[Ross]

Really?

Two words: Oil, Trident.

I don't think that is a sound base for a future growing economy! I don't know enough about the case for an independent Scotland to really have an opinion but I hope there's more than that to it. Personally I think it would be sad to see the union split, but as said I'm pretty uninformed.

[dm80]

I don't think that is a sound base for a future growing economy! I don't know enough about the case for an independent Scotland to really have an opinion but I hope there's more than that to it. Personally I think it would be sad to see the union split, but as said I'm pretty uninformed.

No-one is saying that this is entirely the base for the economy, future or otherwise.

What I am saying is, these are the top two reasons why Westminster is trying every dirty trick in the book to keep Scotland in the union. Oil revenues and the location of Trident.

Oh, and it may make the UK as a whole weaker on the world stage if it is broken up.

Please folks, please at least read a few articles on this subject, before regurgitating what you may have been spoon fed by the mainstream media, the BBC especially.

[mike74]

I have to agree with that ^^^. Theres been a heck of a lot of sabre rattling and posturing over the whole affair. Its like they're trying to make an informed decision about it almost impossible to make. If nothing else, all these tactics are making me want to vote yes, just so we can get away from it all.

[Ross]

Please folks, please at least read a few articles on this subject, before regurgitating what you may have been spoon fed by the mainstream media, the BBC especially.

So nothing from the BBC then

[Colesy]

No-one is saying that this is entirely the base for the economy, future or otherwise.

What I am saying is, these are the top two reasons why Westminster is trying every dirty trick in the book to keep Scotland in the union. Oil revenues and the location of Trident.

Oh, and it may make the UK as a whole weaker on the world stage if it is broken up.

Please folks, please at least read a few articles on this subject, before regurgitating what you may have been spoon fed by the mainstream media, the BBC especially.

The whole argument has turned into typical tit for tat political point scoring. While they completely ignore the important arguments for staying together or not as the case may be, this embodies what is wrong with politics in this country. While Trident has become a hot topic I can't help but think it's not that important in the grand scheme of things. Oil is a different though, you can go as long as we get to keep the oil money!!

BBC (*******s Broadcasting Communism) news irritates me at the best of times! I avoid if at all possible.

[dm80]

The whole argument has turned into typical tit for tat political point scoring. While they completely ignore the important arguments for staying together or not as the case may be, this embodies what is wrong with politics in this country. While Trident has become a hot topic I can't help but think it's not that important in the grand scheme of things. Oil is a different though, you can go as long as we get to keep the oil money!!

BBC (*******s Broadcasting Communism) news irritates me at the best of times! I avoid if at all possible.

Agreed about the point scoring. I've made up my mind anyway, so no reason for me to tune into any tedious debates

If it is a yes vote, then Trident will be the biggest bargaining chip the Scottish government has (it would cost hundreds of billions if not trillions - maybe even a brazilian to relocate it), as negotiations in general will be ongoing for years, if not decades.

[geneandbolly]

i think trident is awesome - i love having those missiles on my doorstep. i can sleep easy at night knowing that the subs are patrolling the waters outside my bedroom window and that those pesky commies wont invade largs while i'm asleep.

as for the oil, i just put some nice castrol gtx 10w/40 in the s6 and i thought to myself, "ah yes, clearly a quality scottish product..."

[Vorsprung durch Technik]

Brilliant! ^^^^^^^

[Vorsprung durch Technik]

All this posturing about why Scotland should leave and the fact Sammond can't even say what currency your going to use.I see it like this.It's not happened to me yet but When your wife says to you, i found a better man and i'm off,your going to be devastated. So she goes and then doesn't like her decision and wants to come back or wants the benefits she once enjoyed.What are you going to say? Your going to say you made your bed now go lye in it. Get teh ....!

If westminister is so bad,how is it then that we kept or should i say Labour refused to join the Euro therefore keeping our independance which has benefited the British Isles massively since the economic crash. @ Colesy said that Labour caused the economic crash here in Uk. So how did Labour manage to crash the rest of the worlds economies at the same time? HHMMMM ( WRONG! ) It was the sub prime mortgage lending market that went tit's up because of the Voodo economics the fecking gready bullsh*ter capitalists in the USA were practising then selling these toxic debts to every bank in the world and effected every western economy.So Labour were that clever, they managed to screw every western country HA HA HA.Total nonsense!!

Scotland according to my scottish buddy Robert who's 50, and seen a bit in his life, says Scotland is going to vote NO anyway. It won't be long now before we see who is right.

[mcandmar]

So if Scotland gains its independence will it join the EU, adopt the Euro currency, and then have a bunch of brussel sprouts dictate its laws and policys? ......better the devil you know.

[montyrs2]

Before it all gets too heated lets remember we all love our S2's and so long as no one bans them politics can do one.

So in a total thread hijack and now for something completley different.

I've had two great drives this summer in my S2, both across the Cotswolds on sunny days when I was in no rush to get anywhere and the roads flowed nicely. Had some tunes on and my S2 was purring away.

What's the best drive you've all had in recent months.

[geneandbolly]

So if Scotland gains its independence will it join the EU, adopt the Euro currency, and then have a bunch of brussel sprouts dictate its laws and policys? ......better the devil you know.

naw, we'll be using empty irn bru bottles for currency - each one worth five shillings in your olde english money . .

[Vorsprung durch Technik]

At the moment Scotts enjoy more money per head than people in the rest of the Uk! That is the kids education and your health service.Better than what i enjoy here in England. When it becomes my sons turn to go to University i know where i am going.Up to Scotland,if things stay as they are,we're we/my son won't have to pay the fees!! What english man wants to be saddled with £27,000 per student when the Scotts get it free!!!!
They still pay the same Tax as we do in the rest of the Uk.

[dm80]

At the moment Scotts enjoy more money per head than people in the rest of the Uk! That is the kids education and your health service.Better than what i enjoy here in England. When it becomes my sons turn to go to University i know where i am going.Up to Scotland,if things stay as they are,we're we/my son won't have to pay the fees!! What english man wants to be saddled with £27,000 per student when the Scotts get it free!!!!
They still pay the same Tax as we do in the rest of the Uk.

You seem quite detached from some facts.

Have a read here http://wingsoverscotland.com/weebluebook/

It's not a propaganda page by Salmond et al, rather an attempt to lay some facts straight.

[Vorsprung durch Technik]

Dm80,are you saying that people in scotland don't get free university education? Free NHS prescriptions?