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  • AAN locking tool & crank bolt torque

    Looking to purchase original locking tool for AAN engine. I know www.ultraperformance.co.uk have them listed, but currently out of stock. Anywhere else one could get their hands on one?

    Also, I believe with correct locking tool 350Nm was sufficient for lower crank bolt?
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  • #2
    There is a extension you use with a torque wrench which allows you use a wrench that only goes to 350NM the crank bolt itself is tightened to 450 NM, it doesn't matter how you lock the crank that's the torque that's specified.

    You can achieve 450NM by torquing the bolt to 200NM and adding 180 degrees, you need 3/4 drive tools to do this safely, it's really tight!

    You can make a crank locking tool using a bit of box section steel with a notch cut out and a big set of pipe grips, or it can be done by using a pry bar in the flywheel ring gear teeth, I'm not very keen on this method but it does work.

    I can make you a tool that will lock any I5 engine that use's this bottom pulley key type, I could lend you mine but you'd have to pay postage both ways, I don't really like the factory tools.
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    • #3
      I was helping a friend do a belt on his VW Crafter and he ordered one of these...... DR TOOLS FOR VW TRANSPORTER LT CRAFTER 2.4 2.5 TDI ENGINE TIMING CAMSHAFT CRANKSHAFT TOOL SET : Amazon.co.uk: Automotive

      Soon as I clapped my eyes on it I thought the locking tool looks familiar ! I have a genuine locking tool for ABY/7A but haven't compared it to the Crafter kit yet.

      If the above kit will do the job it could be a very good buy?!

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      • #4
        The VW tool fit's our engines, but does not lock it at TDC on cylinder one so requires a bit of faffing about... I've used my tool to do a T4 so know it'll work but seem to recall it locks it about 90 degrees out. Still for £25 I could live with it and make it work.
        1989 B3 2.0 3A 80 quattro... Budget 1.8T Project.
        1992 C4 100 2.8 Avant quattro... Mobile Sitting Room.
        1995 RS2... MTM K26/7 380 BHP Conversion.
        1990 Corrado G60... Breaking For Parts.

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        • #5
          I have a homemade tool that sits on the crash bar (?) and locks the crank. Been used twice now and done the job, but OEM always feels that bit more secure.
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          • #6
            If you've got a home made solution that works I'd go with that, the OEM tool really isn't anything special, or you could purchase one of those T4 kit's that John linked to and modify that.
            1989 B3 2.0 3A 80 quattro... Budget 1.8T Project.
            1992 C4 100 2.8 Avant quattro... Mobile Sitting Room.
            1995 RS2... MTM K26/7 380 BHP Conversion.
            1990 Corrado G60... Breaking For Parts.

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            • #7
              Fair enough, might need to invest in a 3/4" breaker bar though for those 180 degrees
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              • #8
                Originally posted by hunker7 View Post
                Fair enough, might need to invest in a 3/4" breaker bar though for those 180 degrees
                You'll need a bit of scaffold pipe as well !!!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hunker7 View Post
                  Fair enough, might need to invest in a 3/4" breaker bar though for those 180 degrees
                  Yeah, I would... I've broke two 1/2" drive ones which I then had to weld up solid to finish the job before I invested in a cheap set of six side 3/4 impact sockets and a decent quality bar, both from eBay, cost about £50 but that was over ten years ago so probably double that now. The 3/4 drive bar is useful for stubborn hub nuts as well so it's worth investing in one.
                  1989 B3 2.0 3A 80 quattro... Budget 1.8T Project.
                  1992 C4 100 2.8 Avant quattro... Mobile Sitting Room.
                  1995 RS2... MTM K26/7 380 BHP Conversion.
                  1990 Corrado G60... Breaking For Parts.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by K Simmonds View Post

                    Yeah, I would... I've broke two 1/2" drive ones which I then had to weld up solid to finish the job before I invested in a cheap set of six side 3/4 impact sockets and a decent quality bar, both from eBay, cost about £50 but that was over ten years ago so probably double that now. The 3/4 drive bar is useful for stubborn hub nuts as well so it's worth investing in one.
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                    • #11
                      I recently did an AAN cam belt and can confirm the ABY tool doesn't work. The AAN tool is the same as the 2.5 diesel tool. I borrowed one from my VAG mechanic friend. I will dig out a pic. As Kit says, it locks the engine off TDC. Not a big deal and easy to work around.
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                      • #12

                        AAN tool


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                        • #13
                          Here is the £25 2.5 TDI tool in action on an ABY engine with AC. You need a 3/4 inch bar to steady it but it works fine.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by johne View Post
                            Here is the £25 2.5 TDI tool in action on an ABY engine with AC. You need a 3/4 inch bar to steady it but it works fine.
                            IMG_3098.JPG
                            That's pretty much how I use my homemade ABY/7A/3B tool on a T4 engine, £25 for the VW tool and a 3/4 solid bar is way less expenditure than a factory S2 tool and a better job IMO. I have to admit I'm yet to do an AAN but know I'd be able to.
                            1989 B3 2.0 3A 80 quattro... Budget 1.8T Project.
                            1992 C4 100 2.8 Avant quattro... Mobile Sitting Room.
                            1995 RS2... MTM K26/7 380 BHP Conversion.
                            1990 Corrado G60... Breaking For Parts.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by John. View Post

                              You'll need a bit of scaffold pipe as well !!!
                              That does make life much easier, I've always managed with a 3/4 bar that's about a 4 feet long, James (Olbi) did the 180 degree's on his car as my elbow simply isn't up to it and he just about managed. I have a suspicion 200NM + 180 degree's is more like 600NM from the calculations I've done but that's what every source of data specifies so that's what I've always gone with.

                              It is insanely tight, why people feel the need to use thread lock on them as well is a total mystery to me.
                              1989 B3 2.0 3A 80 quattro... Budget 1.8T Project.
                              1992 C4 100 2.8 Avant quattro... Mobile Sitting Room.
                              1995 RS2... MTM K26/7 380 BHP Conversion.
                              1990 Corrado G60... Breaking For Parts.

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