Pre Purchase Inspection - Anything major to worry about?

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  • mouse
    S2Forum Addict
    • Apr 2008
    • 374
    • Country: Australia

    #1

    Pre Purchase Inspection - Anything major to worry about?

    I'm looking at buying an S2 here in Australia and while I haven’t seen the particular car yet (its on the other side of the country) I've just had an Audi specialist do an inspection on the car for me.

    Apart from some minor items (2 interior lights & rear washer not working, scratched windscreen) most of it looks pretty good - as it should for a ’95 with 61,000km. It has a full service history and had timing + other belts + waterpump, etc, replaced about 3 years/20,000km ago.

    I was just wondering if any of the following report items would ring alarm bells (or at least give me good reason to bargain the price down):

    • Cylinder compression tests range between 145 and 130 Psi (3 cylinders are 140 Psi) – Psi’s converted to Atmospheres & Bar is :
    130Psi = 8.846 Atm = 8.963 Bar
    140Psi = 9.526 Atm = 9.652 Bar
    145Psi = 9.866 Atm = 9.997 Bar

    • “white smoke from exhaust when started cold and left to idle / possible worn valve stem seals. No evidence of smoking when driving under normal conditions” - The mechanic considered it minimal and not a big worry.

    • He also noticed some slight bumping noises coming from the front end when going over some bumps. – I realise this could be any of quite a number of things (eg . 13 year old rubber bushes) and the mechanic didn’t see any evidence of front suspension damage but it did recently have some repair done to the centre section of the front spoiler and the spoiler has “scratches and 2 holes visible from under vehicle”. The dealer selling the car also tells me the previous owner recently took the car on a track day. … I don’t think I’ll worry too much about the suspension bumps - apart from a bargaining chip.

    There are very few of these cars over here so it will be a case of this S2 (if we can agree on a price) or something else.

    Cheers.
    Last edited by mouse; 15 May 2008, 07:34.
  • Greg_S
    Administrator
    • Jul 2003
    • 12430
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Paul will be able to clarify this but as long as the compression between cylinders doesnt exceed 15psi (dont quote me) it should be fine
    Greg

    S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

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    • Fat Audi 80
      Super Moderator
      • Jan 2004
      • 10547
      • Country: England

      #3
      Front suspension likely to be top mounts or wishbone bushes.

      Nothing too bad to worry about there IMO.

      Good luck.

      Cheers,

      Steve.
      The Perfectionist
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      • S2central.net
        Retired OG Mod
        • Jul 2003
        • 16590
        • Country: Northern Ireland

        #4
        Sounds OK from here... I wouldn't worry about compression values, unless as Greg says there is a large difference... and I'd agree with Steve's suggestion on the noises up front. Given the rare nature of these beasts down under I bet you'd be waiting a long time to find anything close to the apparent condition of this one.

        Good luck,

        Paul
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        • Graham
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jul 2003
          • 1622
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: Australia

          #5
          Originally posted by mouse
          I'm looking at buying an S2 here in Australia and while I haven’t seen the particular car yet (its on the other side of the country) I've just had an Audi specialist do an inspection on the car for me.

          Apart from some minor items (2 interior lights & rear washer not working, scratched windscreen) most of it looks pretty good - as it should for a ’95 with 61,000km. It has a full service history and had timing + other belts + waterpump, etc, replaced about 3 years/20,000km ago.

          I was just wondering if any of the following report items would ring alarm bells (or at least give me good reason to bargain the price down):

          • Cylinder compression tests range between 145 and 130 Psi (3 cylinders are 140 Psi) – Psi’s converted to Atmospheres & Bar is :
          130Psi = 8.846 Atm = 8.963 Bar
          140Psi = 9.526 Atm = 9.652 Bar
          145Psi = 9.866 Atm = 9.997 Bar

          • “white smoke from exhaust when started cold and left to idle / possible worn valve stem seals. No evidence of smoking when driving under normal conditions” - The mechanic considered it minimal and not a big worry.

          • He also noticed some slight bumping noises coming from the front end when going over some bumps. – I realise this could be any of quite a number of things (eg . 13 year old rubber bushes) and the mechanic didn’t see any evidence of front suspension damage but it did recently have some repair done to the centre section of the front spoiler and the spoiler has “scratches and 2 holes visible from under vehicle”. The dealer selling the car also tells me the previous owner recently took the car on a track day. … I don’t think I’ll worry too much about the suspension bumps - apart from a bargaining chip.

          There are very few of these cars over here so it will be a case of this S2 (if we can agree on a price) or something else.

          Cheers.
          Hi there , i think i saw the car on carsales.com, is it the dark green one?. Looks mint. The price is good for over here too, one went a while back with more than double the mileage of that one for over $31 k. Where abouts are you?
          Graham
          Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.--:Albert Einstein

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          • mouse
            S2Forum Addict
            • Apr 2008
            • 374
            • Country: Australia

            #6
            It is the dark green one which is on carsales.com.... but its mine now

            I'm in Perth so it will be a few weeks before I get it shipped over here and get my hands on it.

            Its a fantastic knowledge base you guys have on the forum by the way. I've been an avid reader the last couple of months since I came across another s2 on the market here and decided to do a bit of research them.

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            • Graham
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jul 2003
              • 1622
              • Home: United Kingdom Current: Australia

              #7
              Brilliant, there isnt too many over here, so we should be able to log who has got what soon. KarlblueS2 has one in canberra-Kingfisher and coolhand has one
              Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.--:Albert Einstein

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