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  • Heat Seeking Missile
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jul 2007
    • 658
    • Home: United Kingdom Current: Wales

    #1

    Not Audi related as such, but Volkswagen.

    Got a strange question to ask those who may be in the know.

    I used to own a '97 VW Polo 1.9D, which I passed on to my missus. She drove around in it for a while and loved it, but over time it began to show signs of being poorly. It would seem to surge and feel like it was misfiring and then clear again, this would probably happen once a week or so, until one day the car started to do the surging while on a dual carriageway, unfortunately that time, it didn't clear and cut out instead. This was to be the last time it would ever run.

    It was towed back home and myself and my dad (a diesel engineer) looked around, tried various things and still couldn't start it. It was put on diagnostics, but no codes came up, it wouldn't bump start, it wouldn't tow start, so it was assumed that the fuel injection pump had indeed given up.

    My girlfriends cousin was after a small project and bought the Polo off her, with the intention of either replacing the pump or changing the engine. Fast forward to 9 months later and the cousin's dad was talking to me about it, they'd taken the injection pump off and had it checked and to their surprise, it came back as being fine and nothing wrong with it. He enquired further, and was informed that these cars used a Dual-Mass flywheel (like the Ford TDCi), and that may be the cause, as the flywheel triggered the fuelling via sensors, main problem being, a new flywheel of this sort costs around £1000.

    Is this true? If not, what could the problem be, and also for the record, what is the difference between a dual-mass flywheel and a normal one? I have heard that Ford have gone back to normal flywheels after having so many complaints about the price and size of job of replacing one.

    Mark
    '93 Brilliant Blue Audi S2 Avant - Broken again.
    '98 Tahiti Blue Rover 216SE Coupe
    '96 Arktiksilber Metallic BMW 525td (E34)
    '01 Dark Green Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.1LTD
    '97 Polar White Vauxhall Vectra 2.0Di LS
    '96 Alpine White Peugeot 306 XLDt
  • kwlw
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Sep 2004
    • 1025
    • Country: Lithuania

    #2
    This aftermarket item on flea bay 110269546295 - looks pretty much single mass.

    Sau
    200 20vt 88' 3b, human carrier
    CQ typ85 with AAN inside, see project blog at http://kwlw.blogspot.com

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    • UrS4boy
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Feb 2006
      • 11859
      • Country: Canada

      #3
      To understand why VAG may have used a dual mass flywheel on the diesel Polo, you might want to read this:

      http://forums.audiworld.com/s4s6/msgs/148538.phtml

      Taken in the UrS context, for example, the UrS4 has a square pin welded to its flywheel as shown here:

      http://forums.audiworld.com/s4s6/msgs/108072.phtml

      The pin in the UrS4 is used by the G4 crank position sender as follows:

      http://forums.audiworld.com/s4s6/msgs/116988.phtml

      In the UrS4 it isn't unheard of to have that square pin fall off, effectively killing the car (no reference signal = no run). This *might* be the Polo's problem.

      Just a WAG.

      HTH

      Dave F.
      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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      • Heat Seeking Missile
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Jul 2007
        • 658
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: Wales

        #4
        Ah right, interesting to know about that. Would be a shame to send it to the scrapper if it was something relatively simple, as the rest of the car is still sound.

        Ah well, off to Greece in an hour, so I'll worry about it when I come back

        Mark
        '93 Brilliant Blue Audi S2 Avant - Broken again.
        '98 Tahiti Blue Rover 216SE Coupe
        '96 Arktiksilber Metallic BMW 525td (E34)
        '01 Dark Green Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.1LTD
        '97 Polar White Vauxhall Vectra 2.0Di LS
        '96 Alpine White Peugeot 306 XLDt

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