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  • Fat Audi 80
    Super Moderator
    • Jan 2004
    • 10547
    • Country: England

    #1

    Potential Loss of Independent Garages!!!

    Please take a look at this website. I was alerted by my local garage after my service today.

    We are in danger of having the motor manufacturers dictate that ONLY they can service our cars!!

    I have signed here:



    Info here:



    Cheers,

    Steve
    The Perfectionist
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    Audi Class Concours winner Stoner Park 2014, ADI Concours D'Elegance Class Winner 2008, Runner up 2014. Winner, S2Forum Show'n'Shine Billing 2006 & 2008.
  • Error404
    Super Moderator
    • Mar 2007
    • 19789
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    I don't need them anyway
    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
    Indigo ABY coupé
    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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    • Sonic
      Administrator
      • Jul 2006
      • 5514
      • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

      #3
      signed... what another complete joke of legislation.

      The sad thing is that im not actually suprised.
      S2Forum.com Administrator

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      • Fat Audi 80
        Super Moderator
        • Jan 2004
        • 10547
        • Country: England

        #4
        The legislation must be being driven by some savage lobbying by the car manufacturers...
        The Perfectionist
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        • anton
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Jan 2005
          • 802
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          i dont really see how this could ever happen to be honest, all indys would instantly go out of business and the car manufacturers would have a monopoly. i'm not convinced the powers that be would even allow this to happen, and i would have thought most manufacturers would give out the rights anyway. just out of good will. they would struggle with capacity i think.... also it means a huge increase on people working on their own cars! something i think the government would LOVE to ban!

          Ant
          91' Coupe quattro 20v - project
          KW V2s and other goodies
          now gone
          03' BMW 330CI - Sold
          08' A5 Coupe 3.0l tdi quattro - Sold
          57' BMW 525d M Sport Touring

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          • europeanme
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Oct 2005
            • 3817
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            signed...what the hell do the manufacturers want...

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            • Al Wyn
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Nov 2006
              • 3746
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Originally posted by europeanme
              signed...what the hell do the manufacturers want...
              You, me and uncle Tom cobbley to buy a new car every 3 years
              S2 + RS2 yep ive had a few love em... Laser red S2 avant... Brilliant black lhd RS2... Polar silver RS2... RS blau RS2... CheeRS Al

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              • Al Wyn
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Nov 2006
                • 3746
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Oh and signed
                S2 + RS2 yep ive had a few love em... Laser red S2 avant... Brilliant black lhd RS2... Polar silver RS2... RS blau RS2... CheeRS Al

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                • S2central.net
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 16590
                  • Country: Northern Ireland

                  #9
                  They couldn'y pull this off in the USA - its why Bentley manuals exist amongst other things like the ISO/OBD-2 standard that all manufacturers must comply to for an open interface to test emissions etc etc - thank you California for leading the way on that - there was litigation in the US many many years ago to prevent this kind of shyte with dealers trying to throw their weight around... Knowing full well that it would lead to uncompetitive situations which could only make life worse for car owners.
                  Paul Nugent
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                  1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                  2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                  2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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                  • s2driveruk
                    Super Moderator
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 12696
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    what a load of toss. It was only recently that some EU legislation allowed any garage to service a vehicle to manufacturer specs and enable the warranty to be maintained????? I've signed but fully expect this wont go the distance anyway...
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                    • S2central.net
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 16590
                      • Country: Northern Ireland

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Error404
                      I don't need them anyway
                      Unfortunately that attitude won't work either - just cos you (and me) can work on our own cars. If Audi and others are not legally obligated to sell specialist tools and documents then there is a good chance they will stop doing so. That makes it pretty damn hard to do a lot of big tasks on the car...
                      Paul Nugent
                      Webmaster http://S2central.net
                      Administrator http://S2forum.com

                      1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                      2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                      2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                      Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                      There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                      • Keeper of The Kitten
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 2317
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        Signed.

                        My local indy repairer has a scheme where he shares the purchase of the requisite equipment for diagnosis with another local garage - the cost of some of the "black boxes" is quite shocking, and when they are required for just one repair they are prohibitively expensive.

                        It's this sort of co-operation that some smaller garages will have to utilise to continue to provide independent service.
                        Martin Cutting

                        aka Keeper of "The Teutonic Kitten"

                        It's not better than sex, but it runs it a close second.

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                        • Jas11n
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 5067
                          • Country: England

                          #13
                          Originally posted by s2driveruk
                          what a load of toss. It was only recently that some EU legislation allowed any garage to service a vehicle to manufacturer specs and enable the warranty to be maintained????? I've signed but fully expect this wont go the distance anyway...
                          Bingo.
                          It's not about not letting "us" take our cars to an indie garage, it's about cars still under warranty.
                          Before 2002, if you had your car serviced or repaired anywhere other than an approved manufacturer garage, ie, a dealership, then you would invalidate the warranty.
                          The block exemption regulation enabled an owner to get their car serviced and repaired wherever they choose without fear of the warranty being affected.
                          Even without the block exemption rule, there's no law to stop you taking your car wherever you want.
                          2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
                          2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
                          1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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