Scrappage scheme and write offs!

[twoqu]

Does anybody know what the situation is regards write offs, i.e Cat C/D. The Directgov site does not mention it as one of the criteria nor do the dealers sites I have looked at. However the AA site does!
Typical misinformation! It wouldn't surprise me if there was a whole chapter of unsecified rules and regulation that you have to meet. So does anyone have a definitive answer?

[Keeper of The Kitten]

Have you owned it for at least 12 months and listed as the registered keeper? That's an important start if you're seriously planning to try and take advantage of the system.

[twoqu]

Well other than getting 2000kg of Bavarian lard moted, I would satisfy the terms. I mean do they want nasty polluting old cars off the planet or not!

[twoqu]

I suppose the way forward is to ask the dealer:
"The consumer can check in advance that their old vehicle meets the requirements of the scheme. Dealers will provide further advice"
Although why waste everyones time. Just make the full terms of eligibility transparant, like MP's expenses!

[spink]

I suppose the way forward is to ask the dealer:
"The consumer can check in advance that their old vehicle meets the requirements of the scheme. Dealers will provide further advice"
Although why waste everyones time. Just make the full terms of eligibility transparant, like MP's expenses!

surely the duchess of slough wasn't driving around a cat c/d car?

[twoqu]

Get it right! It was the Marchioness of Stow on the Wold! Then Colonel Blimp. Then a hotel owner from Devon. Perhaps he mashed it up Basil Fawlty style when some horribly complex and horrendously expensive fault appeared! All I know, by the time i got it, it had suffered 99% depreciation!
You are just jealous that most of my vehicles had Titled previous owners.

[goodall]

why would they care if a cat c/d right of there just melting it down

[spink]

some more crazyness

http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=60951

[twoqu]

Well I asked the local Ford dealer and it does appear that Cat C/D are not eligible. The logic being that you or a previous owner has already been paid out so you are "double dipping" its value. Bit narrow minded as if i had a Ferrari F40 which needed a headlight or something, potentially it could have been written off and economically repaired and still worth more than £2K! Sort of fails to take into account that insurance companies don't pay market value and the cost of repair is based on new parts. Besides which, a properly repaired car, i.e one that hasn't been repaired by an insurance companies shoddy workshop partner, would still have a reasonable market value.
The initial rush of 30,000 leaves about another 300,000 to go I reckon. So I wouldn't be surprised to see some amendments to this scheme probably along the lines of what the German scheme is.

[twoqu]

Right! Only took 3 weeks to get a response so I thought I would post the reply. Might help somebody!

The old vehicle does not have to be working at the time you place an order or receive delivery of your new vehicle under the Scrappage Scheme.

However, the vehicle to be traded in must:
have a current MOT test certificate before the date of order for the new vehicle (or within 14 days of expiry at the time of order) have a current tax disc before the date of order for the new vehicle (or within 14 days of expiry at the time of order) be insured when the order for the new vehicle is placed be registered in United Kingdom on or before 31 August 1999 have been registered to you continuously for 12 calendar months before the order date of the new vehicle

WRITE-OFFS
My car is a write-off; does it still qualify for the scheme?

Category A & B write-offs are not eligible.

Category D write-offs are eligible, provided it meets the registration, tax, insurance and MOT criteria.



Category C write-offs before April 2003 are eligible, provided it meets the registration, tax, insurance and MOT criteria.



What happens if my car is a Category C write-off after April 2003?

For cars designated category C write-offs after April 2003, if the car has a Vehicle Identity Check (VIC) marker on it, it will need to pass a VIC test, and have a replacement V5C issued, before it can be eligible for the scheme.



The Dealer will need to contact VOSA (Vehicle and Operator Services Agency) on 0300 123 9000 to find out whether there is a VIC marker on the car. If there is, then you will need to arrange to have VIC test carried out on the car. This can be done at one of VOSA’s 57 VIC testing stations nationwide. The charge for the test is £41 or £50 if the test is carried out of hours.



If the vehicle passes the test, a VIC Pass Certificate (VIC20) will be issued. You should then apply to DVLA for a replacement V5C using a V62 application form. All V5Cs issued following a VIC pass are annotated “Accident damaged and/or substantially repaired; identity checked on dd/mm/yyyy”. The VIC scheme only applies to vehicles in vehicle category M1.



What happens if my car is a Category C write-off after April 2003 but a VIC marker has not been set?

The dealer will need to check with VOSA that a VIC Marker has not been set. If the dealer is satisfied that there is no VIC Marker, the vehicle is eligible providing all the other criteria of the scheme are met.



How can I check the write-off category of my vehicle?

You will need to use a commercial vehicle check company such as Experian; HPI; Carweb and CDL Vehicle Information Services. These companies obtain vehicle information from a variety of different sources and charge for their services. DVLA is unable to provide any information on the write-off category of a vehicle.


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Most frequently asked questions:


What do I do with the old V5C registration certificate?

When you trade in your old vehicle you should complete part 9 of the V5C and return it to DVLA to notify them that you are no longer responsible for the vehicle. The dealer will then keep a copy of the V5C. The original of the V5C goes with your car to the Authorised Treatment Facility where it will be scrapped.



Does the dealer need to keep the tax disc when I trade in my old vehicle?

No, the tax disc should be returned to you so that you can claim a refund if appropriate. To get a refund you’ll need to complete a V14 ‘Application for a refund of vehicle tax’. Send the form and the tax disc to Refund Section, DVLA, Swansea SA99 1AL.



There is no need for the dealer to retain your tax disc. It is not a requirement of the scrappage scheme. The dealer may wish to keep a copy.




My vehicle has been declared SORN, is it eligible?

No, one of aims of the scheme is to get old cars off the road. If a SORN has been made then the vehicle, by definition, is already off the road, and is not therefore eligible.



My vehicle has been declared SORN, can I still qualify?
Yes, you have the option of getting it taxed, MOT’d and insured in order to qualify.



I have to wait 2 months for my new car, and the MOT on my old car expires next week, should I get a SORN while I wait for my new car?
Once you have ordered your car, you should SORN your vehicle if it is going to be more than 14 days between the expiry of the MOT and the delivery of the new vehicle or buy a new tax disc. Once you make a SORN you must keep your vehicle off the public road as you will be committing an offence if it is used or parked on the public road. You will need to make arrangements with the dealer for your old car to be collected once the new one is delivered.



If I keep my old car off the road without a SORN, who will pay if I am fined?
While you remain the registered keeper of the vehicle you are responsible for any fines.



Can I scrap my old vehicle before ordering a new vehicle from the dealer?
No. The old vehicle must be disposed of by the dealer



Is there any limit on how long a motorist has to own the new car after they’ve traded their old one in?
No, there is no limit.



Are their restrictions on the time allowed from ordering the vehicle to taking delivery?
Yes, the new vehicle has to be delivered within four months of the order being placed. This is because the scheme is time limited with a fixed budget. Dealers will let you know if the required vehicle cannot be delivered within this timeframe and discuss alternatives with you.



Are there any restrictions on what consumers can buy?
The new vehicle must be a brand new UK-specification vehicle only ie not previously registered and/or grey import, but can include left-hand drive vehicles that meet UK specifications. There are no models of car or van excluded from the scheme as long as they are below 3.5 tonnes, and supplied by a manufacturer participating in the scheme.







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The dealer will also need to satisfy themselves that the paperwork and the vehicle specifications meet all necessary requirements to successfully complete your transaction.

You may also find the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) http://www.berr.gov.uk/whatwedo/sect...page51710.html and the rules of the scheme http://www.berr.gov.uk/whatwedo/sect...page51068.html on the BIS website useful.

Kind regards

Marylyn Gaskin
Vehicle Scrappage Team
Directgov website: Scrappage Scheme
BIS (formerly BERR) website: Vehicle Scrappage Scheme; FAQs

[GazzaG60]

fiat wrote to me. offered me 2k for the s2. lol against a panda 1.2 lol

id expect fiat would soon be seeling an S2 for a lot more if i took them up on it.

[bluequattro]

they cant sell the cars, they have to be crushed.
I asked at a subaru dealership ( first i saw doing scrappage) and he said they all go to be scrapped, no exceptions
I d gone to see if they d save me any tasty old motors ( ie S2 s or similar) if they had them.
They d already had a 944 in with less than 100k and tax n mot.
stupid scheme anyway
barry boy chavs driving uninsuired rubbish can t afford the rest of the money for the new car, so their cr*p motors stay on the road
its the one owner from new stuff with service history that ends up back at the dealers to be crushed
i couldn t afford a new car even if i wanted one
couldnt get a motor that does what i need for the price it took to get mine mended ( disco td5 heads aren t cheap!)
Still, MR AA man company is dealing with my claim
wait n see