Does Porsche have the same NLA parts issues as Audi?

[Error404]

I'm wondering if Porsche has a bit more of a proud approach to its heritage than Audi when it comes to old parts and workshop tools?
The reason is I am going to reshim my rear diff bearings to correct the backlash tolerance issues i've got after my V8 Torsen swap - I was looking for some of the special tools to drive in/out the bearing races and came across a 944 workshop manual online which uses mostly VW workshop tools for the transaxle, diff and gearbox assembly etc (016 type gearbox i think?) anyway the diff assembly is identical type and size to the stock open S2 diffs - so much so that they use the same VW p/n bearing drifts to assemble the bearing races into the casing and cover plate - VW3138, VW295 and VW511.
My local dealer has already given me the "computer says no!" when I asked if i can buy the tools - I wondered if the Porsche dealer might have a different attitude? Anyone got any experience of the Porka men or know where i might be able to get these old tools?

[Avanter]

IMHO The purchase of the VAG instruments you must be an authorized VAG service.

[K Simmonds]

In the UK VAG will supply the public with special tools, well they will for older car's if they can be bothered to get them.

I would expect a better response from Porsche, well worth a try anyway.

[s2avant]

The official line is that you must approach Volkswagen UK themselves to purchase special tools. Retailers are not allowed to directly supply tools as it is in contravention of their retailer agreement with Volkswagen UK. In europe you can buy them through the ERWIN website who will also supply to the UK.

Here is the bulletin we received:


Please be aware due to operational regulations, as a TPS Centre you are unable to supply tools and equipment direct.

Any Independent Repairer wishing to purchase tools and equipment should email tools.equipment@vwg.co.uk directly supplying the following information –

Name
Contact Details
Part required
Quantity

The customer will then be contacted directly by the team at Volkswagen Group who deal with this area of the business.

This is somewhat nicer worded than the bulletin I saw when I was at a Volkswagen retailer and certainly more polite than the phone call I received from the head of tools and literature when I was caught the second time

Some of my customers have used this servie with mixed results. Most have got what they needed at some very reasonable prices but others have mentioned that it takes a while to get an answer from them.

Ben

[Error404]

Cheers for the PM Ben

So this Erwin website... sounds promising... is that a trade only thing or can us privateers use it?

I might get onto Porsche in the mean time....

Cheers
Alex

[s2avant]

I purchased my current flow binders through the ERWIN site so it shouldn't be a problem for them to deal with you.

https://erwin.volkswagen.de/

https://erwin.audi.com/

https://erwin.seat.com/erwin/

https://erwin.skoda-auto.cz/ - although this has never worked as long as I've known it.

Special tools for VW and Audi: https://erwin.volkswagen.de/workshop/englisch/

Special tools for SEAT: https://erwin.seat.com/workshop/en/default.htm

It's worth noting that the SEAT special tools website states If you wish to purchase a specific SEAT tool, please get in touch with your nearest SEAT dealer.

Ben

[Error404]

hmmm... well i wonder if the seat boys might not be quite as pussy whipped as the vag staff and get some stuff from ze fatherland

I'll try Erwin anyway, thanks Ben

[s2avant]

hmmm... well i wonder if the seat boys might not be quite as pussy whipped as the vag staff and get some stuff from ze fatherland

Now, now don't forget who I work for :mischeif:

Ben

[Error404]

hehe

[Error404]

well i've now got one of the tools on order (from an audi dealer) we'll see if it turns up

[Mikes2]

most of the tools are usually available through http://www.samstagsales.com

[Error404]

nice one Mike

I found VW295 on there - think i'll just make one of them instead of paying $90 + shipping..


can't find the other two though... although Ben showed me the price of 3138 and its comical...... and the other VW511 hopefully a nieve dealer is going to get me one