5x112 hub for CQ (usa)

[varia]

I've read almost every forum about this subject and the simplest way to do: to get 4 S2 hubs. Yes, but its very rare here in States and if you can find one the price will be $1000. I’m not a cheap guy but $1000 for 4 pcs metal something…

Anyway, I’m always thinking how it could be done.
This car is for sale, now, here in the states:

http://grenadelauncher.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/dsc00834.jpg

I noticed the 5 lugs conversion right way and the owned also posted it:
“2001 Audi A4 hub conversion”

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4663978

“I used to own this car and was told that the hubs are from an early 90's URS4”

Can some one confirm this, how is it done? Is it a plug and play swap?
Thank you.

[20vQC]

hubs from a 90's UrS4? hhmm... maybe you mean a 100 C3 from 1990? The production of the UrS4 started in 1992. And no, the hubs from a Typ89 quattro hubs are not interchangeable with the C3 or C4

[varia]

looks like i find it:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4404209

****EDIT**** Just for safety's sake and total cost of doing the swap,all must keep in mind that the front tie rod ends will be closer to the tires and this may limit how wide a tire can be used in the front.This can be easily remedied by using wheel spacers.****EDIT****

Any interests? I can show you guys how to do it on the cheap. Ok,so i see some interest and im really tired of working on my coupe.
First off,id like to thank and give credit to A_CQ on motorgeek as i am just regurgitating what im going to post up today.
I see a few people trying to fit mustang/focus/other stuff,trying hard to work with the 4X108mm bolt pattern. There are hubs from the Euro S2 that can be had for $1000 plus tax and shipping from 034motorsport. You can also try to source the S2 hubs from Europe,but the shipping and exchange rate is going to be also costly.
This hub swap is going to be specifically used to swap 5X112mm hubs into a B3 coupe quattro and the B3 quattro 20V sedan. Also,please keep in mind that this swap will work with the 2 piece strut/hub assembly,so check your car to see if the strut housing unbolts from the hub assembly,if its a one piece,it may not work. If it does,read on.
Here is a parts list of the new replacement parts you will need:
4 new bearings,one for each corner,stock replacements.
4 new axle bolts,but they are sometimes included in the bearing kits.
2 Ur S4 hubs model years 1993-1996,can be found rather easily at a bone yard,cost $50 id say.
2 REAR B5 1.8T quattro hubs,boneyard,$50 id say.
As an option,you may also want to upgrade your rear brakes as im sure your 20 year old calipers are crusty. I sourced out B5 S4 rear calipers,carriers and rotors. They just bolted right up,but i did have to make custom brake lines and slightly modify the E-brake cables. Other rear caliper options that can be used are MK4 golf jetta and B5 A4,which are still a solid rear disc,easier to find,cheaper to replace but some shimming of the carrier may be involved. Your choice to experiment.
So,anyways,back to the hubs,the Ur S4 hubs need to be machined,here is a pic of exactly where the machining needs to be done. See the shiny part? Go into any machine shop and ask them to machine 5mm off the hub,it cost me $30. The Ur S4 hubs will be used in the front your car and the B5 1.8T hubs will go to the rear. The rears dont need any machining,they just press on.
Lastly,the Ur S4 hubs do have a slightly different offset,so when you go to bolt up your G60's,the carrier will hit the rotor. Easy fix,get some washers and back space the carriers so that there will be equal distance from from the carrier to the rotor face. I think i used two 2mm washers on each carrier bolt. Oh,of course you are also going to have to drill out a 5X112 bolt pattern on your front rotors,i just used a drill. The rotor is hub-centric so no perfection is needed there. If you dont like your G60's,i think they are way too heavy and ugly,now whould also be a good time to read the big brake DIY on here to move on up to big reds. This would save you the drilling part,as you would need to buy A8 front rotors which already have a 5X112 bolt pattern.

[Bram]

Has this ever been produced by a S2forum member? I might be interested.

[LVrainman]

Yep! but the fronts from urS4 has to be slightly modified.. Since I used ones from urS4 with UFO I had additionally to machine the hub itself (~4 mm of diameter, if I remember correctly) in order to fit on S2 OEM brake disc.

http://content6-foto.inbox.lv/albums135311993/reiniskils/Ruusinja-atdzimshana/-MG-9604.sized.jpg

http://content21-foto.inbox.lv/albums141013037/reiniskils/Ruusinja-atdzimshana/IMG-5406.sized.jpg

[Bram]

Would this also fit typ 85 CQs? or only the B4 CQ models?

[LVrainman]

I have used splitted hubs/uprights from 20vq on 80Q typ 85. I you want to keep non splitted OEM version then you should use hubs from A100/200 Q typ44

[Bram]

great! thanks for this valuable info

[LVrainman]

you may want to check derracuda's thread on motorgeek.com

http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13390

[Bram]

So these should work too?

http://sites.internet.lu/folders/customautocraft/type44_100_200_v8.htm

21 Euro a piece

[Bram]

you may want to check derracuda's thread on motorgeek.com

http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13390

Dude, 76 pages to read, what page should I look?

[LVrainman]

according to the information on the page yes.. but for 100% shore you might be only when you have both of the hubs on the table side by side

These are hubs for the type44 cars, the one I am offering below is a 5 hole hub, ideal from transforming the 4 hole cars to 5 hole.

P.S. start with 3, 4 or 5

[varia]

Here is a parts list of the new replacement parts you will need:

4 new bearings,one for each corner, stock replacements.
4 new axle bolts,but they are sometimes included in the bearing kits.
2 Ur S4 hubs model years 1993-1996,can be found rather easily at a bone yard
2 REAR B5 1.8T quattro hubs

http://forums.fourtitude.com/showthread.php?4404209-DIY-4X108-to-5X112-hub-swap

ps: Ur S6 hubs just fine along with rear B5 1.8T or 2.8 V6 hubs

[Bram]

Here is a parts list of the new replacement parts you will need:

4 new bearings,one for each corner, stock replacements.
4 new axle bolts,but they are sometimes included in the bearing kits.
2 Ur S4 hubs model years 1993-1996,can be found rather easily at a bone yard
2 REAR B5 1.8T quattro hubs

http://forums.fourtitude.com/showthread.php?4404209-DIY-4X108-to-5X112-hub-swap

ps: Ur S6 hubs just fine along with rear B5 1.8T or 2.8 V6 hubs

If I understand correctly the hubs you refer to are for the hub conversion on a B3 2-piece strut, not the type 85 single piece struds?