S2 Prices in Europe

**s2_wot** · 17 December 2010, 20:36

I don't think it's exclusively an s2 thing here's my 2p

In the UK (& Ireland) commercial & fleet vehicles are depreciated to £0 over 5-7 years by accountants. High levels of depreciation also make the authorised dealer good profit margins. There are plenty who will wax lyrical about the value of a full service record etc but in reality once a car is a few years old it achieves and industry "book value" and +/- £1000 thats it's market value.

What makes the s2 relatively cheap in this system is the fact that a b5 S4 is so cheap:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2317401.htm

And the b6 S4 is falling in a similar way:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2320162.htm

**anthonys2** · 17 December 2010, 21:34

Il sell you my S2 for £10k now theres a saving of £5k!!!:mischeif:

**upliftin** · 18 December 2010, 08:03

The problem is that the S4s are not dropping here, they are also expensive and generally anything with an Audi quattro badge is gold out here in zee Vaterland. Ive just seen an Audi 80 quattro compi for 9000 euros. Ok its good nic, but still has over 100k on the clock...just unreasonable and will probably never sell.

Ive seen so many nice S2s on piston heads that were really good prices and good condition, **** it, gonna get a RHD i think. Fook the roads!

**MidnightBlueS2** · 18 December 2010, 08:57

I might also add .02$ of opinion here as to the reason for the price differences...

The S2 was, is and will remain a performance car with a lot engine tuning potential if you are looking for a lot of hp for a relatively low total price. Getting a german built, AWD 400 hp coupe or avant for a total budget ( car + upgrades ) less than 10.000 GBP is cheap. They also weren't built in huge numbers and they are all getting rather old and a lot have been either written off by accidents or driven till they collapsed with poor maintenance to blame.

Considering this, in the UK, you have a market that is flooded with cheap RHD high performance Japanese cars, some offering a very similar pedigree ( AWD turbo coupe ) of a lot of hp for really not a lot of money. A stock S-spec Nissan Silvia will give you 250hp for 4-5k GBP. And in all fairness, these "Fast & Furious" models are a bit more trendy/hip to own for a lot of enthusiasts. ( I don't include myself in that group but if you've ever driven a R34 GT-R, you understand why they exert such attraction )

In the other European countries which are LHD, we don't benefit from this market competition.

But the market rules remain the same for all irrespective of which side of the channel you live...

Low offer > High demand = High prices

**Dan** · 18 December 2010, 10:24

Strange, really. We're used to getting the raw end of the deal in the UK

Looks like I might have to save up more than I thought for my LHDer... unless I can find a LHD for sale in the UK - would that be cheaper?

My concern about bringing something into Germany would just be that TUV is stricter than our MOT... ie. I could buy something that'd just passed its MOT, but it could fail TUV (particularly if it had a homefry mod).

**DamianURS4** · 18 December 2010, 12:07

In the uk the economy boomed through the eighties, had a minor dip in the early 90's and then we were all systems go as the IT industry took grip all the way from mid 90's to (sector dependant) mid 2000's providing many with german rep-mobiles; be it BMW and ever inceasingly Audi. 3 years later or 75K on the book and they were being sold in their droves - mainly through places like blackbush etc - its hardly surprising that B5 & 6's are everywhere for pretty damned good value. Whilst spending a spell at Vodafone in Dusseldorf - they understood that many of our german cousins were booting about in hardcore mercs, 911's and anything interesting they could get their hands on - but they said many ex-fleet cars were taken east to fetch more money (not always legally). I'll shut up now........ ;-)

**DamianURS4** · 18 December 2010, 12:08

I dont know if it makes any diff that this German S2 was one of the last 300 made and is supposed to be in very good nick - let's face it - there's a very sweet S2 on here for 8.5 at the m o is there not?

just my /2c

**spions** · 18 December 2010, 12:24

GERMANS AR CRAZY ABOUT ALL quattros whats made till 1997.It's audi typ85(coupe,90,UR) typ89 - S2,C4- S4 and S6 with 2.2 20vt.
All this cars will have price laike gold.And thay will go up each year.
I can sell my coupe quatto 1986 with 130000km on clock,second owner(first was german) bla bla for 6k euro.

**Error404** · 18 December 2010, 12:58

The UK will follow, once there are not so many cars around,,, this won't take long at the current rate of decline

At the end of the day they are cult cars and will always have a following.
Like the 'Grale for example... I almost bought a decent Evo 1 a few years ago for £7k, I saw the same car sell a few months ago for £11k

**DeanG** · 18 December 2010, 22:00

looks like a bargain that B6 S4

I just can't believe how cheap the B6 S4 is! That's a lot of car for the money.

I guess prices may also reflect the respective strengths of our economies. German growth has been very strong this year and the UK economy is going to have a hard time next year.

**rs200** · 18 December 2010, 23:51

well all of you guys don't have problem , because you don't live in Croatia... I can't bring car in Croatia which is not euro 3 or older from 2002. year. in Croatia we have 3 audi s2, actually 2 because one was full stock and was sold back to Germany , before few month. and other 2 are not for sale...

If I want have audi s2 , I can buy someone in Germany and on boarder sad that car will go in pieces,pay the taxes for this car. in Croatian law said that s2 in croatia cost around 5000 euro. than I will have to pay 30% of that price, only if I want to bring that car at my home
than I have to find some coupe quattro which have Croatian paper , and everithing from s2 put on coupe quattro. than I will have s2 , but in paper still will be coupe 2.0 quattro , than I have to pay atest or TUV , because I change the engine , that will cost me 300euro, and I still don't have s2. well I have s2, but when it will be 30 year old . I could not came to oldtimer club, because my car is not s2. it is coupe quattro 2.0...

I can bring car which is old more than 30 years. so next year I could bring coupe quattro from 1981. and how much is the price ? now is 12000 euro for ugly and dirty and rusty piece..and If I put 20vt in this car - same procedure like s2

I can bring audi sport quattro WITH NO PROBLEM, because it is very rear car. 120k euro + 30% of price... NO thanks .

so how can I get s2 which is my big wish? or coupe quattro? HOW? when I live in this stupid country...

before war it was Yugoslavia, and you could have car what ever you want , pay some taxes, and no problem. now I can have 50 000 euro but I can't bring s2 from Germay.

so who have problem here? you are talking about few euros + or -... big deal.. you can have s2, I can't.

and yes my month payout is around 500 euro... who is in ****?

**rj scotty** · 19 December 2010, 00:05

Originally posted by rs200

well all of you guys don't have problem , because you don't live in Croatia... I can't bring car in Croatia which is not euro 3 or older from 2002. year. in Croatia we have 3 audi s2, actually 2 because one was full stock and was sold back to Germany , before few month. and other 2 are not for sale...

If I want have audi s2 , I can buy someone in Germany and on boarder sad that car will go in pieces,pay the taxes for this car. in Croatian law said that s2 in croatia cost around 5000 euro. than I will have to pay 30% of that price, only if I want to bring that car at my home
than I have to find some coupe quattro which have Croatian paper , and everithing from s2 put on coupe quattro. than I will have s2 , but in paper still will be coupe 2.0 quattro , than I have to pay atest or TUV , because I change the engine , that will cost me 300euro, and I still don't have s2. well I have s2, but when it will be 30 year old . I could not came to oldtimer club, because my car is not s2. it is coupe quattro 2.0...

I can bring car which is old more than 30 years. so next year I could bring coupe quattro from 1981. and how much is the price ? now is 12000 euro for ugly and dirty and rusty piece..and If I put 20vt in this car - same procedure like s2

I can bring audi sport quattro WITH NO PROBLEM, because it is very rear car. 120k euro + 30% of price... NO thanks .

so how can I get s2 which is my big wish? or coupe quattro? HOW? when I live in this stupid country...

before war it was Yugoslavia, and you could have car what ever you want , pay some taxes, and no problem. now I can have 50 000 euro but I can't bring s2 from Germay.

so who have problem here? you are talking about few euros + or -... big deal.. you can have s2, I can't.

and yes my month payout is around 500 euro... who is in ****?

And we think we have it bad in uk

**EspenW** · 19 December 2010, 00:30

Originally posted by s2_wot

I don't think it's exclusively an s2 thing here's my 2p

In the UK (& Ireland) commercial & fleet vehicles are depreciated to £0 over 5-7 years by accountants. High levels of depreciation also make the authorised dealer good profit margins. There are plenty who will wax lyrical about the value of a full service record etc but in reality once a car is a few years old it achieves and industry "book value" and +/- £1000 thats it's market value.

What makes the s2 relatively cheap in this system is the fact that a b5 S4 is so cheap:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2317401.htm

And the b6 S4 is falling in a similar way:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2320162.htm

Holy smoke... everything seems to be practically free of charge over in non-ripoff Britain.
Over here, the B5 S4 will go for £35,000 and the B6 is somewhat over £40,000.

S2 Prices in Europe

S2 Prices in Europe

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