Likelyhood of finding a sedan? (LHD)

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  • Dan
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jun 2008
    • 1242
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Likelyhood of finding a sedan? (LHD)

    How often does one of the 300 or so S2 sedans come up for sale?

    Obviously talking LHD - not after the single RHD!

    Failing that... what's the consensus on the best donor sedan to mash together with my coupe? Just a regular 80 sedan?

    (I've looked at a few S2/RS2 sedan threads on here already - it's not that I can't find the search button, I'm just asking for general consensus as well )
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  • re2500
    S2Forum Fiend
    • May 2007
    • 2185
    • Country: Wales

    #2
    Id say you'd definately have to start with a quattro saloon, save you a lot of messing about at the rear.

    Most people use V6 quattro saloons as there the easiest to come by. But the easiest to do the conversion on i would say is a 16v quattro saloon. There not common but the engine mounts etc for the I5 will be in the right place (engine mounts will need modifying on v6)
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    • Rusty
      Super Moderator
      • Jun 2004
      • 18953
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      You want an Avant as a donor car for a B4 saloon. The B3 shares a lot more in common with the Coupe but the B3 arches do limit the size of wheels that can be run and have the B3 front end, rather than the updated / S2 style B4.
      Cheers'en, AndyC
      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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      • Dan
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jun 2008
        • 1242
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Okay, thanks guys, so B4 16V Quattro if possible, otherwise V6q.

        Looks like the easiest thing will be to sell the Coupe and get an avant as a donor?

        What are the things I need from the avant that can't be found on the coupe and aren't already on the B4 saloon quattro?

        Trying to put a list together from theads, but if anyone already knows...
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        • S2central.net
          Retired OG Mod
          • Jul 2003
          • 16590
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #5
          Beefier driveshafts on the B4 Avant and of course the 5-bolt hubs are required for a proper conversion... other than things like specific springs and dampers the rear of B4Q 16V saloon will be otherwise be identical to S2 Avant.
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          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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          • WabTheKing
            S2Forum Fiend
            • May 2004
            • 2567
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            lol i flew to holland and drove my donnor sedan quattro back ;-)

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            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #7
              @show off
              Paul Nugent
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              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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              • Dan
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Jun 2008
                • 1242
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                hah, yeah, I heard about that.

                All this will be happening when I've moved to Germany and have a garage to **** around in (hence why I want LHD now).

                Looks like first step when I have that space will be to find a B4Q 16V with an emphasis on a good condition chasis and body.

                Cheers guys.
                1993 ABY Coupe | BMW R1200 GS
                A6 3.0 TDI Quattro (aka Sonic's 'ring support/cargo vehicle )

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                • Big Lee M
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 2571
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  I know of a very good Avant.
                  Just some finishing touches to do now

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                  • Dan
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1242
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Big Lee M
                    I know of a very good Avant.
                    hah, I'd feel guilty using yours - it's too good.
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                    • shaun5
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1610
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      16v quattro saloon

                      Looks like first step when I have that space will be to find a B4Q 16V with an emphasis on a good condition chasis and body.

                      Looks like i bought the correct car if i want to convert it into a S2 saloon sometime in the future Dont know how to do a link but ive just bought a 16v quattro saloon from pistonheads

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                      • Rusty
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 18953
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dan
                        Okay, thanks guys, so B4 16V Quattro if possible, otherwise V6q.

                        Looks like the easiest thing will be to sell the Coupe and get an avant as a donor?

                        What are the things I need from the avant that can't be found on the coupe and aren't already on the B4 saloon quattro?

                        Trying to put a list together from theads, but if anyone already knows...
                        Avant/Saloon chassis is totally different from the gearbox back (including prop, diff, ARB etc.). The interior is also different saloon to coupe and exhaust too (if you swap it over to save £). Get an upgraded RARB on there, along with the B5 style brace bars.

                        Ideally you want lightly damaged Avant donor and can then swap it all over. Avant springs will be fine, although they're a different Audi part no, the Saloon ones are more than likely a smidge softer so sticking on Avant ones might cause a little increased ridfeheight but will do the handling some favours.
                        Cheers'en, AndyC
                        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                        • Dan
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 1242
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Originally posted by shaun5
                          Looks like i bought the correct car if i want to convert it into a S2 saloon sometime in the future Dont know how to do a link but ive just bought a 16v quattro saloon from pistonheads
                          Nice.

                          My plan is to get some space I can dedicate to the project and then over the next couple of years (as and when time and funds allow), anally build up a mint RS2+ Saloon.

                          Yes, I am aware that this is the end of my bank balance.

                          Edit: Thanks Rusty. Looks like I need a damaged avant with good engine, gearbox, propshaft, diff, etc... be a bonus if it comes with decent interior.

                          Springs + dampers, ARBs and exhaust are are potential upgrade items anyway, so I wasn't too fussed there. I'm planning more of an upgraded conversion rather than a straight move-over.
                          Last edited by Dan; 8 February 2011, 18:04.
                          1993 ABY Coupe | BMW R1200 GS
                          A6 3.0 TDI Quattro (aka Sonic's 'ring support/cargo vehicle )

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                          • Rusty
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 18953
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            TBH, if it's a road car then you can just swap the lot over pretty much FOC, upgrade the worn out bushes and then upgrade things once you've had time to drive it and take stock. Only other thing I'd upgrade would be dampers, as they'll be aincient, unless you get lucky. A stock sprung car on upgraded dampers and larger RARB drives quite nicely on the road and the roll isn't that bad on track TBH. If you're lucky, I'll have my K24R sports springs around for some added body control sooner rather than later
                            Cheers'en, AndyC
                            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                            • Rocco
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6393
                              • Country: Spain

                              #15
                              friend, i know a guy in Spain selling a audi 80 quattro competition ...

                              for 2500€
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