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  • baltiboyS2
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Mar 2005
    • 965
    • Country: Scotland

    #1

    M.O.T changes since th 1st of Jan

    Hi guys just a quick note there have been massive changes to the M.O.T testing this year
    Take a look at the PDF file i felt quite sorry for a old boy today with his old girl thing's that were advisories were massive failures today the car has been scrapped





    cheers Raj
  • TimE-J
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2009
    • 1292
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    I had a similar situation this week with an Older couple with an old fiesta would have needed a few small things for test but with the new regulations the car has also been written off.
    96 S2 aby Coupe. Rebuild Project
    96 mk3 golf tdi daily.

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    • S-Express
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Nov 2006
      • 1133
      • Home: United Kingdom Current: Wales

      #3
      ooh well we must comply with the rest of europe! Load of blinking tosh.
      What's next? must keep standard sized wheels, no engine mods, no life, no fun, no danger, lets all just live in a molly-coddled world of inert she -ite.....

      blah!!!!
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      • terrybullwon
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Mar 2006
        • 8782
        • Country: England

        #4
        Proposed changes to be made in 2012

        Rear passenger doors opening
        All door hinges, catches and
        pillars
        Are these now in effect. Correct?
        Chef

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        • baltiboyS2
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Mar 2005
          • 965
          • Country: Scotland

          #5
          If they are going down that road then the m.o.t will have to change to 4 and 2 it is a money making racket but hey
          Yes make sure the basic's are safe but now it they are adding more and more on im sure there is more being added in june

          cheers Raj

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          • TimE-J
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Jul 2009
            • 1292
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Yes as of 1st Jan. Had a nice shock in work when all the menus had changed slightly on the MOT computer.
            96 S2 aby Coupe. Rebuild Project
            96 mk3 golf tdi daily.

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            • baltiboyS2
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Mar 2005
              • 965
              • Country: Scotland

              #7
              Originally posted by terrybullwon
              Proposed changes to be made in 2012



              Are these now in effect. Correct?

              In effect now also cars with the hid upgrade will be required to have washer jets fitted to the bumper for lamps if not thats a failure


              cheers Raj

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              • terrybullwon
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2006
                • 8782
                • Country: England

                #8
                Bollachs thats a Job on Monday then... Rear door handle on the Golf has always been ****ed
                Chef

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                • Jamo
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 21750
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Originally posted by baltiboyS2
                  In effect now also cars with the hid upgrade will be required to have washer jets fitted to the bumper for lamps if not thats a failure


                  cheers Raj
                  Do the washer jets just have to be there or working? does it state this?

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                  • benntenn67
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 859
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    M.O.T changes since th 1st of Jan

                    There are to be some changes to the MOT test from 1st January 2012 which are being introduced in response to European Commission Directive 2010/48/EU of the 5th July 2010 and which will effect those with aftermarket HID headlights and remapped ECUs:

                    4.1.4 Compliance with requirements:
                    (a) Lamp, emitted colour, position or intensity not in accordance with the requirements
                    (Products on lens or light source which obviously reduce light intensity or change emitted colour
                    © Light source and lamp not compatible

                    4.1.5. Levelling devices (where mandatory):
                    (a) Device not operating.
                    (Manual device cannot be operated from driver’s seat.

                    4.1.6 Headlamp cleaning device (where mandatory):
                    Device not operating.

                    For anyone with a remap, section 6.1.9 may be relevant.

                    6.1.9 Engine performance:
                    (a) Control unit illegal modified.
                    (Illegal engine modification.

                    (by 'illegal', it is assumed that they mean changed/programmed differently from OEM specifications)

                    There will also be a new check on the general condition of the wiring:

                    4.11. Electrical wiring
                    (a) Wiring insecure or not adequately secured.
                    ( Wiring deteriorated.
                    © Damaged or deteriorated insulation

                    and on the function of airbag and seat belt pre-tensioner systems:

                    7.1.4. Safety belt Pre-tensioners:
                    Pre-tensioner obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.

                    7.1.5. Airbag:
                    (a) Airbags obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.
                    (Airbag obviously non-operative.

                    7.1.6. SRS Systems:
                    SRS MIL indicates any kind of failure of the system.

                    VOSA say.....

                    The car/light goods vehicle MOT test is about to change – the European Commission has changed the Directive that covers it. We take a look at when these changes are likely to come into effect and what they mean for MOT testers.
                    Britain has been testing vehicles under the MOT scheme for 50 years now. Last year, the European Directive covering the MOT test was updated and revised by a modern version called 2009/40/ EC. This was then updated by 2010/48/EU, which was ratified on 5 July this year.
                    The new Directive keeps the EU minimum 4-2-2 test frequency but adds a number of new elements to the British MOT test. The Directive anticipates all test changes being in place by 1 January 2012, and a common European approach to test certificates in place by 1 January 2014. So what is VOSA doing to introduce the changes?
                    In terms of test frequency, in mid-July the coalition government confirmed that it intends ‘to look at the issue of MOT test frequencies later this year’. VOSA contributed statistical data to inform the last review in 2008, and we expect that our computer system and the data you have entered will be utilised again in much the same way.
                    We expect to hear more details of the government’s review proposals later in the year.
                    As far as changes to the test content are concerned, VOSA has already been analysing the requirements of the new Directive and working out how to implement them. We started this earlier in the year by talking with representatives of the MOT trade at our regular Trade User Group and VTS Council meetings. Both VOSA and the Department for Transport (DfT) are keen to ensure that any changes to the test are introduced in as practical a way as possible, keeping the burden on the trade to a minimum and ideally keeping the changes cost neutral.
                    In many cases, the changes shouldn’t necessarily lead to an increase in average test times. A good example is the malfunction indicator lamps on the dashboard that indicate defective electronic power steering, electronic stability control and secondary restraint systems. Testers already check the dashboard for other lamps, so no extra time would be required for this addition to the test.
                    Electrical wiring and batteries are now included in the test’s scope, but testers already check the vehicle structure where wiring is secured – often along the same routes as other testable items, such as brake pipes in the engine compartment. So again, this doesn’t look like an additional burden on the tester. In the pre-computerisation days, testers often (wrongly) failed vehicles for insecure batteries, so they must have been looking at them then! Now, it means that when we implement the new Directive, vehicles can legitimately fail for battery insecurity, for no extra tester effort.
                    Other items – such as headlamp bulb and unit incompatibility, headlamp levelling devices and illegal engine ‘chipping’ – will need further thought before we can get a workable solution for MOT stations.
                    Some of the new items may require extra effort on the part of the tester – when we know for sure what that is we’ll be talking again with our trade and DfT colleagues to work out what the impact will be.
                    The common EU test certificate should be relatively easy to achieve – the only data that the Directive expects and that we don’t currently provide is the symbol for the vehicle’s country of origin. Probably 99% of vehicles tested will have
                    ‘UK’ entered here, but if you do test vehicles with a foreign plate, you will need to enter the correct country symbol. We may even be able to make this change earlier if there is a convenient opportunity.
                    The MOT trade can rest assured that VOSA is working closely with you to introduce any new elements as efficiently and effectively as possible, with the minimum of fuss. Just as importantly, we are also working closely with Siemens to ensure that any system changes due on New Year’s Eve 2011 go smoothly! We should know more by the time the MOT seminars take place – come along and ask the experts.
                    Audi S2 Coupe 1995
                    VW Passat GL5 (hatch) 1986
                    VW Passat GL 1.8 (saloon) 1986
                    Carrera Subway 8

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                    • baltiboyS2
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 965
                      • Country: Scotland

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jamo
                      Do the washer jets just have to be there or working? does it state this?
                      Working i have a printed out version given to the tester i am still scanning through it my argument was that some cars have HIDS and don't have washer jets i look after a couple of Audi's that have had them from the supplier but no jets im sure we will have a argument or two with M.O.T tester in July

                      cheers Raj

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                      • mrtat2k9
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 659
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        im all for some changes some of the state iv seen some cars iv worked on like welding should never be on the road but its still work coming in at the end of the day.
                        its just to get us to keep buying new cars.

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                        • Error404
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 19789
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          what is the definition of an "illegal" chip then? I'm pretty sure there is no law governing ECU reprogramming?
                          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                          Indigo ABY coupé
                          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                          • Tony Stark
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 288
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            As for HID's, those of us who have them fitted should be ok as the s2 has headlamp washers and motorised aim adjusters which can be operated via a switch from the drivers seat.*

                            Theres no mention of the presence of suspension operated auto-aim levelling being a requirement.*

                            Yarp?

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                            • Jamo
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21750
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              I'm just fecked off I need to get a new washer pump and pipe work for my rs2 washer jets, I deleted them yonks ago

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