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  • TommyMardon
    S2Forum Fanatic
    • Aug 2013
    • 55
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    ABY or 3B?

    What's the differences apart from the ABY has a 6 speed box and the 3B has a 5?

    I like the thought of having 6 gears, but both cars top out the same speed so I'm assuming the 3B has larger gear ratios?

    What one's worth getting if you've got the money?
  • rynaqui
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Mar 2012
    • 2752
    • Country: Malta

    #2
    Originally posted by TommyMardon
    What's the differences apart from the ABY has a 6 speed box and the 3B has a 5?

    I like the thought of having 6 gears, but both cars top out the same speed so I'm assuming the 3B has larger gear ratios?

    What one's worth getting if you've got the money?
    ABY has coil packs whereas 3B has the distributor.
    ABY has 230 hp and 350NM of torque vs 220 hp and 309NM in the 3B.
    ABY box can handle more power and torque than the 5 speed 3B item.
    ABY has ellipsoids vs standard reflectors in the 3B.
    ABY intercooler is larger than the 3B.
    3B is lighter than the ABY (Apparently)

    What else am I missing?
    1996 S2 ABY Silver

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    • TommyMardon
      S2Forum Fanatic
      • Aug 2013
      • 55
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      I'm guessing going for ABY is a better shout then?

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      • GazzaG60
        S2Forum Freak
        • Mar 2007
        • 4133
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        I wouldn't condsider a 3b.

        the aby is about engine and box. the rest is pretty much 80.

        from having a aby coupe to a b3 80q saloon I can tell you the cars are much of a muchness until you go up the rpm range or change gear.

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        • audinut
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jul 2009
          • 2195
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          I have an ABY for sale
          NOT a car dealer! just an S2/RS2 enthusiast

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          • re2500
            S2Forum Fiend
            • May 2007
            • 2185
            • Country: Wales

            #6
            There are also many subtle differences between the two. But personally i prefer the ABY models.

            Most ABY's have slightly wider 6 spoke (avus) wheels and 3B have 5 spoke wheels (the 6 spoke will accomodate porsche brakes which is worth knowing)
            The leather trim changed from a large panel design to a "pleated" (narrow horizontal panels) design (the quattro cloth was unchanged)
            The battery in an ABY is under the back seat which improves weight distribution and allows more space in the engine bay
            Less Steering turns lock to lock on the ABY, but is also slighty lighter in feel.
            You can activate and deactivate the ABS on the 3B via button on the dash, but not on the ABY.
            Shock diameter is larger on the ABY
            Clear front indicators and red rear indicators
            There are many subtle design changes throughout including bolt sizes etc but all academic really.

            It is worth adding that not all the differences in S2's are 3B - ABY
            E.g. Some early ABY's had 5 spoke wheels, non ellipsoid headlights, orange indicators, old style leather seats.
            Likewise late ABY's had airbag steering wheels...
            Black B3 1990 CQ 2.3E converted to ABY & 6spd. (301bhp) - Now Sold
            03 Dolphin B6 S4 Avant LPG - New Daily Wagon
            01 Silver D2 A8 3.7 quattro sport - SOLD

            "Difficult is worth doing"

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            • _ShurikeN
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Mar 2010
              • 733
              • Country: Russian Federation

              #7
              IMO, there are 2 really worthy ABY issues against 3B: 01E and the body (extra reinforcement panels). The other advantages are implementable with less efforts if needed.

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              • S2TORNADO
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Jan 2008
                • 620
                • Country: England

                #8
                Originally posted by TommyMardon
                I'm guessing going for ABY is a better shout then?
                if you take advice from a few people who've owned both the results would be a lot closer. some of the most knowledgeable people on the forum choose a 3b over an ABY.
                pick the best car available on it's individual merits.

                3b is more of a drivers car. ABY more of a detailers car.

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                • TommyMardon
                  S2Forum Fanatic
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 55
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  I have an ABY for sale
                  How much mate?

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                  • audinut
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 2195
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    NOT a car dealer! just an S2/RS2 enthusiast

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                    • vti2
                      S2Forum Addict
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 281
                      • Home: Portugal Current: Germany

                      #11
                      3B has stronger rods and you don't realy Need the coil Packs if you are Not going to Push it Hard.
                      The best Route is a 3B with the 6 gear tranny from the RS4

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                      • Error404
                        Super Moderator
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 19789
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        The 3B is the blonde to the ABY's brunette. The 3B is more fun but the ABY is the one to own. Of course both of these metaphorical sluts can be modified to suit your taste, but the ABY will always be a size 14.
                        Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                        Indigo ABY coupé
                        Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                        • John B
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 926
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          S2 Central

                          Have a look at http://www.s2central.net/index

                          Loads of information there
                          2001 996 C4 - Being renovated
                          1994 ABY Coupe - "Das Smaragd RS2+ Coupe" - Sold

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                          • andy10v
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5996
                            • Country: Scotland

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Error404
                            The 3B is the blonde to the ABY's brunette. The 3B is more fun but the ABY is the one to own. Of course both of these metaphorical sluts can be modified to suit your taste, but the ABY will always be a size 14.
                            PMSL

                            You really do have a wonderful turn of phrase at times Alex.
                            Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                            Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                            Sold ABY-stock

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                            • TommyMardon
                              S2Forum Fanatic
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 55
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Well nice mate, looking at the coupe one ideally

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