Just in case you did not know how a quattro works!

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  • Smith_S2
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Feb 2007
    • 634
    • Country: Scotland

    #1

    Just in case you did not know how a quattro works!

    Here go's

    VWAG has been developing all wheel drive and four wheel drive (4WD) systems since nearly its inception during the Second World War. The Kubelwagen, Schwimmwagen and Kommandeurwagen were all military vehicles that required power to all four wheels, the latter being a 4WD Beetle. Their military and all wheel drive experiences later aided them in designing the Iltis for the German military, in the 1970's. The Iltis utilized an early form of AWD which would become synonymous with quattro.

    In that original quattro system, obviously later found in passenger cars, the engine and transmission are situated in a longitudinal position. Power is sent through the transmission to a mechanical center differential which splits it between the front and rear axles. AWD was turned on permanently.

    After 1987, the inclusion of a Torsen (torque-sensing) center differential, instead of a manually-locking one, allowed engine power to be redirected to individual axles as driving conditions warranted. Under ideal conditions (i.e., grip is equal in both front and rear axles) power is split between front and rear (50/50 in many, though not all, versions). In extreme conditions (i.e., when grip varies from front to rear), a maximum of 66-80% (depending on the transmission or model) of the engine's power can be directed to the front or rear axles. The mechanical nature of the Torsen centre differential helps prevent wheel slippage from occurring by diverting power to the axle that has more grip. In comparison, viscous coupling and electronically controlled differentials that are used in other all-wheel drive systems are reactive since they only redirect power once wheel slippage has occurred. The advantage is felt under acceleration while turning since the power transfer between axles is less sudden, reducing the chance of spinning.

    The Torsen-based quattro system also offers an advantage in the opposite function of distributing power to the wheels: engine-braking. When engine-braking is used to slow the car down, the resulting loads on the front and rear axle are stabilized by the Torsen system in exactly the same way that engine power is diverted - mechanically. This allows the spreading of the engine-braking load on the tires among the four wheels. The Torsen-based quattro-equipped vehicle is able to execute a more stable high-speed turn under deceleration with less risk of spinning due to loss of grip in the front or rear axles.

    However, this configuration of the quattro system does have some limitations. With placement of the engine-transmission assembly in a fore/aft position (longitudinally) there arises the need to place the front axle well behind the engine, leading to a common criticism of Audi vehicles: being nose-heavy. In other words, the ideal 50/50 weight distribution cherished by many driving enthusiasts is not possible. Recently the centre differential has been adapted to a 40/60 front/rear static split (i.e. when grip is equal on both front and rear axles), allowing more rear-wheel-drive-like handling characteristics. This was first introduced in the 2006-model RS4. It is planned to be incorporated in all future quattro-equipped cars which use longitudinal-mounted engines.

    The power split between left and right wheels has been achieved through the various iterations of the quattro system by various combinations of open, limited slip, and eventually electronically locking differentials.

    i thought it very interesting

    any thoughts?
  • S2central.net
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    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #2
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    • Keeper of The Kitten
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Dec 2003
      • 2317
      • Country: England

      #3
      The newer torque split has left me pondering:

      Can the TorSen diff used in RS4 gearboxes be fitted to earlier gearboxes....?
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      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        KOTK what you need is the stasis diff

        Audi Torsen Center Differential Upgrade



        For Manual Transmissions Only



        Tuning the center differential provides one of the most significant performance gains available to the Quattro owner. The standard torsen center differential in the S4 and A4 provides a 2:1 torque distribution capability. This enables the end of the car with traction (generally the rear) to deliver twice the torque being delivered by the least tractive end of the vehicle (generally the front). For high performance street cars, we recommend a bias ratio of 4:1. This is the same bias ratio that Audi has provided in the stock RS4 driveline.



        Torsen Differentials deliver more torque to the wheels that have more traction. The STaSIS high bias torsen provides a dramatic improvement in negotiating a turn quickly and efficiently. Now your car can be 3 cars in one( front, all and rear wheel drive):



        Hard braking leading into a turn
        Car acts like a front wheel drive – torsen acts like an open differential when its not under power. Wheels turn independently and car control is improved.



        Mid Corner, Throttle On
        Car acts like an all wheel drive– torsen delivers equal amounts of power to front and rear wheels. This maximizes grip, allowing more power to be applied at this stage of a turn.



        Corner Exit, Hard Acceleration
        Car acts like a rear wheel drive car – front wheel slip is rediced because the torsen delivers up to 88% of the engine torque to the rear wheels where the most traction is.





        For Manual Transmissions Only







        Core Exchange

        There is a core charge of $550 if we send out a STaSIS center differential to you. When you exchange your center differential for a STaSIS unit, send your differential back to STaSIS and we will refund the $550 core charge.



        You may also send your differential to us for modification and not incur a core charge. We can usually modify and ship out your modified differential the same day we receive it.



        Select a 2002 Audi S4 2.7T to see the details

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        • Albert
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Aug 2003
          • 1500
          • Country: Poland

          #5
          I have STaSIS center differential and it works very good with 6-gear ABY gearbox
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          • Keeper of The Kitten
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Dec 2003
            • 2317
            • Country: England

            #6
            Ah yes that'll be the ticket
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            • Error404
              Super Moderator
              • Mar 2007
              • 19789
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              sweet! coupled to a trosen or LS rear diff that must be awesome :mischeif:
              is there not someone over here who can do similar work - quaiffe etc?
              Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
              Indigo ABY coupé
              Imola B6 S4 Avant

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              • Error404
                Super Moderator
                • Mar 2007
                • 19789
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                just had a thought actually - i know a guy who works for Ricardo.. i wonder what he knows :mischeif:
                Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                Indigo ABY coupé
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                • Albert
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1500
                  • Country: Poland

                  #9
                  My curent setup is 4:1 modyfied central Tosen + rear V8 Torsen
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