Who runs solid subframe bushes on their C4?

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  • hunker7
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    #1

    Who runs solid subframe bushes on their C4?

    I have been running solid subframe bushes for about a year now or so, and both of my control arms are now very much broken. Could solid subframe bushes be destroying control arms?
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  • macspring
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    • Mar 2005
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    #2
    Were your control arms new when the metal subframe bushes were done. Also can depend on what brand they were ? I presume it is the ball joint end of the control arms that have the play ?

    Metal subframe bushes are not compatible with a daily driven car - Others can flame me if they need to but that's just my opinion.



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    • hunker7
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      #3
      I know 1 was brand new definitely, came with the car when I bought it. Other one I fitted was genuine Audi that came with second sub frame when I bought it.

      Can't really complain about them if I'm honest, slight increase in road noise/vibration, but handling is miles better...but if it means having to replace lower arms once a year I will be going back to stock or poly bushes.
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      • tekstil
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        • Jun 2011
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        #4
        I have solid subframe bushes on my UrS4 for about 2 years now. Fitted together with new good quality control arms and so far everything is OK, even considering how bad roads we have here. Mileage is low though, around 20000km.

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        • hunker7
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          #5
          That's good to hear. I really like how she handles with solid bushes. I might just get new arms fitted and see what happens.

          Would you know anyone who runs poly control arm bushes?
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          • Error404
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            • Mar 2007
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            #6
            Just buy high quality arms (Lemforder) and you will be a happy bunny
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            • hunker7
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              #7
              Can't get lemforder complete arms, but I can source bushes separately. So if ball joint is ok I'll just get them and press new ones in
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              • Error404
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                • Mar 2007
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                #8
                Yes you can:

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                • Thuppu
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                  • Sep 2010
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                  #9
                  Switch inner bushings to uniballs. Even better control.

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                  • hunker7
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                    #10
                    Problem with that is she's a daily driver so I want retain some comfort
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                    • diesel des
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                      #11
                      Solid subframe bushes in mine didn't make it any more harsh... Definitely drives much better.

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                      • hunker7
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by diesel des
                        Solid subframe bushes in mine didn't make it any more harsh... Definitely drives much better.

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                        What brand arms did you fit? Lemforder?
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                        • diesel des
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by hunker7

                          What brand arms did you fit? Lemforder?
                          Yes mine are trw or lemforder

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                          • hunker7
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                            #14
                            Thanks Des
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