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  • Juggs
    S2Forum Hobbyist
    • Feb 2011
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    • Home: United States Current: United Kingdom

    #1

    Recommend a re-map anyone?? tdi

    Hi their new poster so please dont shoot me down just yet!!!....
    Just wondering if anyone can recommend a place to get my audi 80 tdi remapped or chipped on here.
    The car is a 1993 80 TDI (90bhp) as its the earlier one i take it as its the 1z engine using the t2 turbo not the smaller later gt17 feel free to correct me if im wrong?
    It now has the EGR blocked off, a set of .216 (110bhp) injectors fitted out of a seat leon.
    Both seem to have made a small difference but i am still running standard boost 0.9bar & i am hoping for a bit more grunt.
    Tried using a manual boost controller to up the boost which didn't seem to make it any quicker, guessing because the fuelling is still to low?
    If anything it seemed more laggy.
    Has anyone else tried this crude method with better results?
    Cannot find a way to adjust the fuelling manually unless its just me and im missing something so guess its ECU controlled correct?
    Can any folks advise me the next best step for me to take with tuning from their experience as i am looking for around 120bhp & a good wedge of extra torque.
    Hope this is achievable with my stock turbo and intercooler.
    Any info/light shed on the matter is a great help,
    Cheers Toby
  • als2
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jul 2009
    • 809
    • Country: Scotland

    #2
    have a look at tdiclub.com and look for the "champagne performance beer money" thread. All good reading in there. Ive made up a variable version with a couple of resistors and a potentiometer to dial in more fuel.

    Let me know how u get on.

    AL

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    • Jamo
      Retired OG Mod
      • Mar 2004
      • 21750
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      MRC map them as well, IIRC S2avant had his done there

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      • Nuno Cristiano
        S2Forum Addict
        • Aug 2010
        • 421
        • Country: Portugal

        #4
        Welcome!

        About Remap your tdi 90hp not problem.

        Audi 80 use older ECU with two Eprom DIL. Black case.

        I re-map some 80 without problems.

        You can put VNT15 or GT1749V ( AFN/ASV engine ) without problems. However you need buy other ECU, example " DK " version or " EK " version, and N75 valve.
        .: MINI Cooper D 08' :.
        .: Audi Coupe Quattro 20V 91' :.
        .: Audi Porsche RS2 95' :.

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        • Juggs
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          • Feb 2011
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          • Home: United States Current: United Kingdom

          #5
          Right feedback, tried a few places today and yesterday with not an awful lot of luck. Tried custom code, awsome gti, psi tuning, plus a fair few others that advertise in performance vw mag.
          All are saying that the car is too old and as it has no ODB2 port they cannot do anything to help.
          MCR said they used to re-map/chip the 1z 80 tdi's but due to their being such a small demand they no longer offer the service which was kind of who i was banking on.

          Als2: I read through the whole of the "champagne performance for beer money" thread, jesus its long!! 44 pages and nearly an 8 year old thread over on tdiclub.com!
          Now i understand the principle but still couldn't find anyone on their reporting of doing the mod on a pre 1994 audi 80 (1z), but judging by peoples opinion it should still work.
          As i have not a lot of other options i think i am going to have a bash at this and see how i get on with it using an adjustable 1.5k pot.
          Could you report any of your findings or even which wires you bridged to perform the mod at the fuel pump?
          I know you have to bridge pins 2 & 3 but what colour are the wires you bridged?
          Only ask as i will do it close to the fuel pump and they are not labelled up here.
          Any help will be much appreciated and i will be posting my results for other users.

          Nuno Cristiano: I like the sound of a re-map for my car are you saying you can carry one out?
          Only issue i see is that your in Portugal and i live in the U.K.
          Do you mean via post if i sent you my E.C.U?

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          • Nuno Cristiano
            S2Forum Addict
            • Aug 2010
            • 421
            • Country: Portugal

            #6
            What you said is other way to increase power in your 1Z engine. You can aply evry-mode ( power-box ) in wiring of Pump injection.

            You need only use wire number 2 and 3.

            To increase boost pressure i not recommend more that 0.1bar. Because ECU MSA11 use Map Sensor to " see " correctly boost value. Who ECU make ( stock ) 0.8/0.9bar boost she not much more.. Same some after.

            The correct way is re-map stock ECU but you need send me ECU.

            Sorry my bad English!
            .: MINI Cooper D 08' :.
            .: Audi Coupe Quattro 20V 91' :.
            .: Audi Porsche RS2 95' :.

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            • Juggs
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              • Feb 2011
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              #7
              Ok still a little bit confused on the 'evry mod' i have brought all the bits to carry it out as it sounds like its worth a try and i understand the idea of the mod and what it achieves.
              Thing i am confused about is which wires to use, i here i use pins 2 and 3. The plug going to my fuel pump should be either an 8 or 10 pin plug right?
              Well looked at doing the mod and the only plug i can see going to my fuel pump is a 3 pin plug,
              now i don't know if its me being stupid or overlooking something but i am confused..!!
              Could anyone help me out with this or let me know if they had the same issue and guide me in the right direction please?
              Who has carried the mod out on their TDI?
              Oh and does it make any difference as my car is a 1993 is it for the later models only?
              Thanks in advance Toby

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              • mario2005
                S2Forum Fanatic
                • Dec 2010
                • 56
                • Country: Latvia

                #8
                Originally posted by Juggs
                Ok still a little bit confused on the 'evry mod' i have brought all the bits to carry it out as it sounds like its worth a try and i understand the idea of the mod and what it achieves.
                Thing i am confused about is which wires to use, i here i use pins 2 and 3. The plug going to my fuel pump should be either an 8 or 10 pin plug right?
                Well looked at doing the mod and the only plug i can see going to my fuel pump is a 3 pin plug,
                now i don't know if its me being stupid or overlooking something but i am confused..!!
                Could anyone help me out with this or let me know if they had the same issue and guide me in the right direction please?
                Who has carried the mod out on their TDI?
                Oh and does it make any difference as my car is a 1993 is it for the later models only?
                Thanks in advance Toby
                I did it easy
                eBay get cheap chip for 58£ (100% ask about for chip housing what you solder in first and then plug in your Power chip )
                Remove EGR
                Remove small pipe inside air box
                Check all intake sealing


                Result incredible performance boost
                Before car was slowish and unresponsive to acceleration
                And very good runner on long stretches

                Now burns rubber in second gear and just flays

                Sad thing only clutch don't hold power anymore

                But in all that thing i believe best part was to remove that stupid small piping inside air box

                And next moods will be new clutch CAT removal Exhaust work and believe better Cooling Ind better nozzles because i still going on originals

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                • Nuno Cristiano
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 421
                  • Country: Portugal

                  #9
                  Today i´m remap Audi 80 Cabrio 1.9TDi

                  I will post my Dyno test.
                  .: MINI Cooper D 08' :.
                  .: Audi Coupe Quattro 20V 91' :.
                  .: Audi Porsche RS2 95' :.

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                  • DJones
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2020
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Try Automark 01642 714200.

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                    • Juggs
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                      • Feb 2011
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                      • Home: United States Current: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Mario: Can you send me the link if possible to the place you got your chip from as their are a few on e-bay and a little bit sceptical about their gains, is any?
                      Was your chip just a plug in type or did you have to solder it into your ECU?
                      I will be removing the EGR & cleaning out the intake manifold and i will also look into this pipe you mention in the airbox.

                      Nuno Cristiano: How did you get on with the re-map on the tdi cab you was talking about?

                      DJones: Will give them a shout after the bank holiday, cheers for the number!

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                      • mario2005
                        S2Forum Fanatic
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 56
                        • Country: Latvia

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Juggs
                        Mario: Can you send me the link if possible to the place you got your chip from as their are a few on e-bay and a little bit skeptical about their gains, is any?
                        Was your chip just a plug in type or did you have to solder it into your ECU?
                        I will be removing the EGR & cleaning out the intake manifold and i will also look into this pipe you mention in the air box.

                        Nuno Cristiano: How did you get on with the re-map on the tdi cab you was talking about?

                        DJones: Will give them a shout after the bank holiday, cheers for the number!
                        On eBay there is 2x sellers for power chip to Audi 1z engine I get from Czechoslovakian seller 40 chip plus 6 delivery but i did mistake because my ecu didn't have plug and play setting and i needed to solder chip in but you can order special plate what you solder in your ecu and then plug chip in

                        Nd yesterday my power chip conversation make new surprise
                        Oil in cooling expansion tank And today i change head gasket but otherwise 100% happy with it

                        Sorry for bad spelling
                        Last edited by mario2005; 29 April 2011, 20:00.

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                        • mario2005
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 56
                          • Country: Latvia

                          #13
                          By the way my engine is on 210000 miles and still on original head gasket turbo etc
                          Last edited by mario2005; 29 April 2011, 19:58.

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                          • TobyC
                            S2Forum Tinkerer
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 2
                            • Home: United Kingdom Current: Wales

                            #14
                            Has anyone else had any other experiences with this guys who seems to make these chip himself? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3206028628...#ht_1151wt_901

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                            • Ivan_ZG
                              S2Forum Buff
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 28
                              • Country: Croatia

                              #15
                              Mario, where exactly is the small pipe inside airbox? Does it apply only for pre '94 models or newer also?

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