The operation of a TDI

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  • prj
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    • Mar 2010
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    #46
    Yeah, driver's wish is just torque and everything else is calculated based on it... kinda like ME7.
    I haven't looked at EDC17 much though
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    • rj scotty
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      • May 2006
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      #47
      Originally posted by Sir Buff
      I can give you a file for a T4 with the AJT Motor if you want. But you have to do immo and checksum cause i don't know how ;-)
      (perhaps prj can do it)
      Yes Please

      I drive a 2003 AJT too

      cheers

      rich
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      "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
      BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

      1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
      1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
      2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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      • quattro84
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        • Mar 2006
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        #48
        Hehe me neither. Looking at Delphi manuals all day (to make future challenges for you to sort out ) so no urge to do so in spare time.

        ME7 keeps on being mighty interesting though... perhaps giving it a try in the future.

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        • prj
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          • Mar 2010
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          #49
          Guys, if you want to trade files, that's fine, but don't do it in this thread.
          I really don't want "omgwtf my car does not start" stuff in here
          Don't get me wrong


          Originally posted by quattro84
          Hehe me neither. Looking at Delphi manuals all day (to make future challenges for you to sort out ) so no urge to do so in spare time.

          ME7 keeps on being mighty interesting though... perhaps giving it a try in the future.
          Pretty much all the ME7 factory info has leaked, so it's just a question of sitting down and reading through ze german.
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          • rj scotty
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            • May 2006
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            #50
            One of the few people I will take chip tunning advice from is you PRJ

            As a novice to this the route I will go down is to get an identical ecu from a brakers yard and have a play with that. That way I can always put my original ecu back in if it all goes wrong.

            cheers

            rich
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            "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
            BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

            1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
            1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
            2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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            • prj
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              • Mar 2010
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              #51
              If it has immo, you will need to adapt immo or defeat it first.
              The former should be possible using a VAG-COM cable.
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              • rj scotty
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                #52
                Now Vagcom I am fluent with. I also have vag tacho so I can discover login codes.

                Time to take the next step, maybe
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                "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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                • prj
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                  • Mar 2010
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                  #53
                  Yup, then you are covered - go for it
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                  • rj scotty
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                    • May 2006
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                    #54
                    Sorted

                    Rich exits stage left to hit ebay for a t4 AJT ecu
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                    "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                    BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                    1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                    1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                    2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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                    • kaross
                      S2Forum Hobbyist
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 22
                      • Country: Latvia

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Sir Buff
                      Yes, it's a tuned file. You can look at it if you want. I use it in my T4 TDI for at least 60'000 km. It don't destroys motors ;-)
                      But it's from the bay, so i don't know if it's correctly tuned. I sent the original file and then received the tuned one from the "tuner".
                      No soldering was needed.

                      I can check your file and answer in this thread. Mostly ebay chips are crap. Car maybe is going better but you can get it run better.
                      This ECU is much more complex than Omega.

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                      • prj
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                        • Mar 2010
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by kaross
                        I can check your file and answer in this thread. Mostly ebay chips are crap. Car maybe is going better but you can get it run better.
                        This ECU is much more complex than Omega.
                        EDC15 is still so easy compared to ME7...

                        Omega has ECU from 1994 basically. Or well, even earlier. MSA-11 is ancient
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                        • kaross
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                          • Oct 2010
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                          #57
                          By the way MSA-11 is the first electronically controled diesel injection.
                          Diesel injection systems having an electronic volume control, start-of-injection control and exhaust gas recirculation.

                          Right now I am reading one document from Bosch about ME - management. tough nut.
                          Last edited by kaross; 16 February 2012, 22:09.

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                          • prj
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                            • Mar 2010
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                            #58
                            Yup..
                            It's very simple and elegant. Good place to start learning about Diesel electronic injection

                            Btw, actually my topic title is incorrect, because this engine is not actually direct injection.
                            I was thinking about Audi's too much when I wrote TDI, as Audi's AAT was the first TDI...
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                            • kaross
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                              • Oct 2010
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                              #59
                              not exactly. Audi 100 1T in C3 chassis was first TDI. AAT, ABP was after that.
                              Opel is prechamber diesel.

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                              • prj
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                                • Mar 2010
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                                #60
                                Originally posted by kaross
                                not exactly. Audi 100 1T in C3 chassis was first TDI. AAT, ABP was after that.
                                Opel is prechamber diesel.
                                Ah yeah, I forgot about 1T completely.
                                Indeed, Opel is indirect injected. BMW engine... or Steyr, if you want to be really **** about it
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