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  • gunman
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jan 2009
    • 660
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #1

    80 TDI daily driver

    Bought an 80 TDI last week to use as a daily drive. The car is fairly good order but the engine has slight issues which I am hoping to resolve. The car has 139k on it. It seemed underpowered and has the shuddering in 4th and 5th which I am fairly sure is linked to the speed sensor as when it's disconnected it doesn't do it. Here's the car as it sits now:





    I had one of these cars years ago which was also underpowered (although it didn't shudder) I knew there were a few things which could be done. When I ended up breaking my old car I noticed the cat was blocked and the inlet manifold was badly restricted due to gunge build up.

    First job was the cat, simplest way to do this is to beat the insides out of the cat (not the ginger yoke which is normally found on the front door step unfortunately). This one wasn't too bad, I've seen a lot worse:





    Then, this morning I tackled the manifold which also wasn't too bad. I let it steep in a bucket of thinners whiile I checked out the rest of it. One of the vac hoses has near worn through:





    I replaced this and also found a split in the boost hose on the manifold (which isn't the original one) so shortened it a bit. Has now got a bit more lift alright, still doesnt idle just right and shudders too. Vagcom showed a fault with the throttle position sensor so that still has to be replaced.
    1996 Audi S6 Avant.
    1994 80 TDI - Daily Driver
  • macspring
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2005
    • 6371
    • Home: Ireland Current: Wallis & Futuna

    #2
    Sooty # II,

    Good start to the thread.

    Kind regards.



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    • benntenn67
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Jun 2009
      • 859
      • Country: England

      #3
      sooty 2

      Front bumper change, alloys, aux gauges - mods in the pipeline???
      Audi S2 Coupe 1995
      VW Passat GL5 (hatch) 1986
      VW Passat GL 1.8 (saloon) 1986
      Carrera Subway 8

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      • martinjs
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Jul 2003
        • 3205
        • Country: England

        #4
        I had the same shuddering issue when i had mine. With speed sensor disconnected it ran fine.
        I tried a new sensor but nothing changed, did my head in well and truely. I just left it disconnected. Then got rid of it.
        Ben had the same issue and i've heard other people have also.
        Good luck.

        Here's the thread i started about it, goes well off topic a few times mind.

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        • ManiacuV6
          S2Forum Addict
          • Dec 2009
          • 458
          • Country: Romania

          #5
          I told anoither time and I told it again : the problem comes from the electronic part of the injection pump. I repaired at least 20 cars and now all run without issues.
          Audi S4 2.2T 5 spd 1992 for parts
          AUDI A4 1.9TDI daily use

          Audi 80 Quattro 2.0 16V (ACE) aka Competition

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          • martinjs
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Jul 2003
            • 3205
            • Country: England

            #6
            Originally posted by ManiacuV6
            I told anoither time and I told it again : the problem comes from the electronic part of the injection pump. I repaired at least 20 cars and now all run without issues.
            You hadn't joined this forum when i had my car, there you go then Gunman, should be able to get it sorted.

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            • gunman
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Jan 2009
              • 660
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #7
              Originally posted by ManiacuV6
              I told anoither time and I told it again : the problem comes from the electronic part of the injection pump. I repaired at least 20 cars and now all run without issues.
              I'd seen you posted that before from the post linked above. Any more info?
              1996 Audi S6 Avant.
              1994 80 TDI - Daily Driver

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              • ManiacuV6
                S2Forum Addict
                • Dec 2009
                • 458
                • Country: Romania

                #8
                All the procedure to fix the problem is way too hard to explain. Is better like that because I don't know how many skills has everyone. I can fix cars like that but for that I need to see the car
                Audi S4 2.2T 5 spd 1992 for parts
                AUDI A4 1.9TDI daily use

                Audi 80 Quattro 2.0 16V (ACE) aka Competition

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                • gunman
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 660
                  • Country: Northern Ireland

                  #9
                  Fair enough but it's not much use to me then.
                  1996 Audi S6 Avant.
                  1994 80 TDI - Daily Driver

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                  • andy10v
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 5996
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #10
                    Some parts of the workshop manual are uploaded here, including some info on diagnosis and adjustments



                    80 TDI is a great daily, 50mpg booting it everywhere, I am doing glow plugs, top mounts and service on ours tomorrow.
                    Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                    Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                    Sold ABY-stock

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                    • Acidburn
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 13459
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      The start of another project - looks like a good base

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                      • baltiboyS2
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 965
                        • Country: Scotland

                        #12
                        The shuddering is the fuel pump itself it is the elctronic part on top of the pump it will run forever like

                        cheers Raj

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                        • gunman
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 660
                          • Country: Northern Ireland

                          #13
                          Originally posted by benntenn67
                          Front bumper change, alloys, aux gauges - mods in the pipeline???
                          Funny you should mention that

                          I bought a spares car yesterday which came with 16" Audi 80 competition alloys (needing a refurb), 3 spoke steering wheel and SE seats. The drivers seat isn't that good but the good news is the material is the same as mine so I can maybe get the seat bolster redone using a section of material from the back seat.

                          Need to sort the ABS too, looks like a spanner monkey has busted the front O\S sensor while doing a CV boot so instead of fixing it has removed the bulb from the dash. Don't know about England but in NI that is an instant MOT fail! 2 of the tyres on it which passed under advisory would also have failed in NI. Have them replaced now and the alignment done (fitted bambridge's uprated adjusters)

                          ManiacuV6 is going to have a go at repairing the pump for me too so hopefully it should be getting into some decent sort of order soon. Seems to be quite a bit of initial outlay going into it. Thing is, I have to make it a nice car, both to drive and look at as if it isn't, I know I'll lift the S2 keys every morning on my way out the door to work.
                          1996 Audi S6 Avant.
                          1994 80 TDI - Daily Driver

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                          • andy10v
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5996
                            • Country: Scotland

                            #14
                            Ahh parts cars, how to lower the tone of the area!

                            Sounds like it will yield you some useful parts.
                            Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                            Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                            Sold ABY-stock

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                            • gunman
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 660
                              • Country: Northern Ireland

                              #15
                              The car has a gearbox oil leak too which seems to be staining the driveway.

                              Seems to be leaking at the linkage input. Does anyone know if this seal is handy enough replaced? I could swap the gearbox from the spares car.

                              Cheers
                              1996 Audi S6 Avant.
                              1994 80 TDI - Daily Driver

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