1997 A4 1.9tdi ecu swap/immobilizer help

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  • andy10v
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2009
    • 5996
    • Country: Scotland

    #1

    1997 A4 1.9tdi ecu swap/immobilizer help

    Hi guys

    Looking for some dag dag ecu help.

    I am trying to fit an chipped ECU to my A4, however when the new ecu is fitted the car starts and runs for about 1 second before cutting out, I assume the immobiliser is doing that?

    Can I code the new ECU in with VAG COM? And if so what is the correct procedure?

    I have found this in the VAG COM wiki, but I am not clear what my car has (or exactly what I am meant to do)

    Immobo 1


    Immobo 2


    I have VAG COM, but am not familiar with how to use it, only got it for reading codes.

    Car/ecu details;

    1997 A4 1.9Tdi quattro,110 AFN engine

    4A0 953 234
    IMMO AUZ9Z0H2333467 D77

    ECU numbers

    My original ECU

    Audi 028 906 021 EM
    Bosch 0 281 001 553/554
    06.09.96
    28SA3033
    1761 0520
    810


    Chippd ECU

    VW 028 906 021 GL
    Bosch 0 281 001 656
    05.05.97
    28SA3359
    810
    800 76505 1754 0034
    1446

    Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated

    Andy
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  • prj
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2010
    • 6308
    • Country: Estonia

    #2
    IMO not a very good idea to swap the ECU's like that.
    Are you sure both those ECU's were on engines with identical hardware fitted?

    There are a few solutions to this, all require SMD soldering.
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    • andy10v
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2009
      • 5996
      • Country: Scotland

      #3
      Hey

      It was meant to be a de immobolized ecu, chipped and a straight swap.

      That would not appear to be the case, however if I could sort the immobilizer issue it would save it being sent back.

      This was meant minimize hastle/downtime of sending my ecu off.
      Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

      Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
      Sold ABY-stock

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      • prj
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        • Mar 2010
        • 6308
        • Country: Estonia

        #4
        Well, do you have a hot air station?
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        • Nuno Cristiano
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          • Aug 2010
          • 421
          • Country: Portugal

          #5
          Can you read EEPROM via OBD! VAG TACHO can read Immo and after it is only necessary decode file
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          • prj
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            • Mar 2010
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            #6
            VAG Tacho will read cluster...
            I don't think you can read MSA-15 EEPROM over OBD.
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            • Nuno Cristiano
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              • Aug 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by prj
              VAG Tacho will read cluster...
              I don't think you can read MSA-15 EEPROM over OBD.
              Test and you will see!
              .: MINI Cooper D 08' :.
              .: Audi Coupe Quattro 20V 91' :.
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              • prj
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                • Mar 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by Nuno Cristiano
                Test and you will see!
                Not sure what you mean.
                VAG Tacho reads Cluster EEPROM, not ECU EEPROM.

                Although for Immo 2 and Immo 1 it should be enough to write 00 into channel 00 in VAG-COM.
                I assume OP has already tried to do this?

                [Select]
                [17 - Instruments]
                [Adaption - 10]
                Leave channel at "00"
                [Read]
                [Save]
                [Done, Go Back]
                [Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
                [Exit]
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                • andy10v
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                  • Mar 2009
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by prj
                  Although for Immo 2 and Immo 1 it should be enough to write 00 into channel 00 in VAG-COM.
                  I assume OP has already tried to do this?
                  Not yet.

                  I presume anything in [] is a button to click?

                  Do I plug the new ECU in and try this? Or do I need to get anything from the old ecu first?

                  Thank you for your help/patience.
                  Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                  Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                  Sold ABY-stock

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                  • prj
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                    • Mar 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by andy10v
                    I presume anything in [] is a button to click?
                    Yes.
                    Do I plug the new ECU in and try this?
                    Yes.
                    Or do I need to get anything from the old ecu first?
                    No.
                    Thank you for your help/patience.
                    Yes.
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                    • andy10v
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                      • Mar 2009
                      • 5996
                      • Country: Scotland

                      #11
                      Sorted, thank you very much

                      I did exactly what is written above but in [Immobilizer], it did not work doing it in [Instruments]

                      Thank you for babysitting Dmitri
                      Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                      Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                      Sold ABY-stock

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                      • spink
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 4382
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        hows it go now?

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                        • andy10v
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 5996
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                          #13
                          Only been out for a quick run, its icy.

                          Pulls harder, and feels like it revs through much more cleanly, feels more "eager" all round. Does not fall off like stock either.

                          Will see tomorrow how much it smokes
                          Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                          Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                          Sold ABY-stock

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                          • jbh
                            S2Forum Enthusiast
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 112
                            • Country: Scotland

                            #14
                            bit of a thread revival here...

                            Andy im semi local to you and im having similar issues.. ive got an Chipped ecu im needing programed into my 110 TDi quattro could you help me out?
                            1997 A4 avant 110 TDI Quattro

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                            • andy10v
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 5996
                              • Country: Scotland

                              #15
                              Sure, can do the read, write, save thing in vagcom, if it there is something else though you are welcome to use vagcom, but you will need to know what to do.
                              Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                              Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                              Sold ABY-stock

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