2.5 tdi ANJ crankshaft broken

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  • pasbogdan
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Sep 2009
    • 1160
    • Country: Romania

    #1

    2.5 tdi ANJ crankshaft broken

    I was very proud of my 2003 vw lt that it has 700.000km on clock without opening engine,factory turbo.
    But desaster strikes:
    Crakn broken on the nr 1 bigend.No oil starvation,bearings not hot,only damage of the running engine with broken crank.
    It was the front pulley that was wobbleing since a fiew month?
    Or it was time
    I will open it and see how bores look,will make a rebuild to last another 500.000
    No oil deposits in 700.000 km.Look how clean all is.
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  • campbellWS
    S2Forum Addict
    • Oct 2010
    • 446
    • Country: Scotland

    #2
    wow!!!! how the heck does a crank break like that

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    • pasbogdan
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Sep 2009
      • 1160
      • Country: Romania

      #3
      I think wobly front pulley did that.Will a rigid one with no xucking ruber be ok for the hidraulic tensioner?

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      • UrS4boy
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Feb 2006
        • 11859
        • Country: Canada

        #4
        Originally posted by campbellWS
        wow!!!! how the heck does a crank break like that
        If you followed some of the links about the harmonic balancer you will find that there are stories about two engines on a test bed, one with a harmonic balancer and one without. Both rev'd to something like 5000 or 6000 RPM. The one without the harmonic balancer lasted only minutes.

        Bottomline: Missing or damaged harmonic balancer/damper = recipe for disaster.
        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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        • quattro84
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Mar 2006
          • 947
          • Country: Netherlands

          #5
          Nope, looks like normal low cycle fatique looking at the clean fracture surface. Crack originates from the smallest area, at the oil bore hole.

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          • pasbogdan
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Sep 2009
            • 1160
            • Country: Romania

            #6
            This is a van with tdi so no 5000 6000 rpm needed.All i5 diesel(2.4,2.5)have harmonic?

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            • UrS4boy
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Feb 2006
              • 11859
              • Country: Canada

              #7
              Originally posted by pasbogdan
              This is a van with tdi so no 5000 6000 rpm needed.All i5 diesel(2.4,2.5)have harmonic?
              I am sure they (all the I5s) have some form of harmonic damper. Here is a failing one from a C4 AAT diesel:

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              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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              • pasbogdan
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Sep 2009
                • 1160
                • Country: Romania

                #8
                Lot of ruber there.Not all have so much.

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                • rj scotty
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • May 2006
                  • 2195
                  • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                  #9
                  All 5 cylinder engines need some sort of external balancer due to the 2nd and 3rd degree harmonics created
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                  "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                  BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                  1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                  1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                  2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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                  • rj scotty
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • May 2006
                    • 2195
                    • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                    #10
                    I'm replacing mine on the van next cam belt change. I'm on nearly 190000 miles and just done second cambelt change.

                    I have a bet with a fellow t4 owner: £1000 first to 1 million miles on original engine

                    looked after these engines should out live you!
                    sigpic
                    "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                    BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                    1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                    1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                    2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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                    • pasbogdan
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1160
                      • Country: Romania

                      #11
                      I measured main bearings bores with caps tightened and found 0.05-0.07 deviations.Not worth reboring the crank line because i found a perfect bores/main lines AGX sdi block.Do you think material in it will the same?

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                      • pasbogdan
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 1160
                        • Country: Romania

                        #12
                        Visualy(holes etc) and dimensions are the same at 2 blocks.Why are 2 codes?one for anj tdi and one for agx sdi?

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                        • diesel des
                          S2Forum Possessed
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3896

                          #13
                          No oil squinters on sdi.?

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                          • ManiacuV6
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 458
                            • Country: Romania

                            #14
                            I think that the main reason is to make the identification of engine more easy . When you go to make M.O.T ( ITP in Romania) the tehnician will check if you have the engine from the car's paperwork.
                            Audi S4 2.2T 5 spd 1992 for parts
                            AUDI A4 1.9TDI daily use

                            Audi 80 Quattro 2.0 16V (ACE) aka Competition

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                            • pasbogdan
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1160
                              • Country: Romania

                              #15
                              Oil sprayers also on sdi.

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