A4 B6 1.9 TDi 130 losing power after driving downhill

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  • haaran
    S2Forum Addict
    • Apr 2009
    • 236
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    A4 B6 1.9 TDi 130 losing power after driving downhill

    Hi all, help needed!

    My B6 A4 1.9 TDi 130 has an odd problem. Recently it has started losing power and going into limp mode almost every journey. It did this previously and I would just restart the car and it would be fine for quite a while. However, now it's potentially a lot more dangerous as this happens mid-overtake on the motorway and I have no option to switch the car off and restart it. Now the odd thing is it seems to happen more when I've traveled downhill and am then attempting to go uphill (the worst time!).

    The fault code it's coming back with is 17965 which, according to RossTech, means 'Charge Pressure Control: Positive Deviation'.
    The solutions it suggests are:
    - Check hoses, pipes aren't disconnected, blocked or leaking
    - Check N75 valve for boost pressure control
    - Check, Clean, Replace Charge Pressure Control
    - Check, Clean mechanism for variable nozzles

    Now I've tightened the few hose clips I could easily get to and there's some improvement but I was hoping someone may be able to narrow down the cause perhaps and tell me how I can perform the various other checks suggested.

    Thanks for your help
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  • spink
    S2Forum Freak
    • Jul 2003
    • 4382
    • Country: England

    #2
    Replace ALL the vacuum hoses whether they look ok or not, that will normally sort it . It's also cheap to do.This is probably the most common fault you come across on vag tdis

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    • haaran
      S2Forum Addict
      • Apr 2009
      • 236
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Thanks.
      Are they all the ones on the driver's side of the engine (about 6 or 7 of them) or are there others too anywhere?
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      Audi 80 Sport, 1986, ...my first car...wish I still had it
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      • Monkeymagic
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Mar 2012
        • 3419
        • Country: England

        #4
        Get VCDS and go into output tests and cause the n75 to start running with the engine turned off. Make sure the actuator rod is moving up and down freely. I would suggest this is stuck vanes in the turbo.
        Sometimes soaking the actuator in oil and freeing up using the above method will get it moving again. You then get a huge cloud of soot out the back as you floor it.
        This is an overboost code so in other words it is not a leak...

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        • prj
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          • Mar 2010
          • 6308
          • Country: Estonia

          #5
          In 99% cases on these cars this is caused by stuck vanes on the turbo.
          Clean the vanes and everything will be OK.
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          • haaran
            S2Forum Addict
            • Apr 2009
            • 236
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Would the turbo vanes stick intermittently?
            Once the car has been restarted it can drive perfectly for a long time with the turbo boosting fine (or so I think).
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            Audi 80 Sport, 1986, ...my first car...wish I still had it
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            • Monkeymagic
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              • Mar 2012
              • 3419
              • Country: England

              #7
              Yes its when you bury your foot under load usually.
              Try doing as i say to clear the vanes failing that its as prj says it will require a rebuild and clean.

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              • ronaldvossen
                S2Forum Enthusiast
                • Dec 2013
                • 174
                • Country: Belgium

                #8
                Has the problem been solved? Its a common problem with those tdi's... Air mass sensor related I believe.. Or a valve that should shut but remains open until you reset the system by key.


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                • Monkeymagic
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 3419
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Overboost on these is nearly always sticking vanes.

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                  • geryS2
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • May 2006
                    • 814
                    • Home: Belgium Current: Portugal

                    #10
                    yep, got that on mine too, did replace all the hoses

                    minor problem
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                    • macspring
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                      • Mar 2005
                      • 6371
                      • Home: Ireland Current: Wallis & Futuna

                      #11
                      How do you clean the vanes ?

                      Thanks.



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                      • haaran
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 236
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Mine magically cured itself after a 200 mile drive to Scotland. Sticking vanes were the problem and a long motorway blast managed to free them I believe. I've been using more of the rev range more often and have not had the symptoms since.
                        Audi S2 Avant, 1995, ...and it begins with a Homefry
                        Audi 80 Sport, 1986, ...my first car...wish I still had it
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