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  • Yaz
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    • May 2007
    • 445
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #151
    I think you might have got it the wrong way round, I meant the RS2 rear springs would be stiffer in theory to handle the extra BHP.

    Transpires thats not the case anyway...

    Originally posted by Rusty
    Smells a bit funny to me...

    Softer springs give more understeer (and more squat, not less), so they've just been safer with the faster car. The ARBs are different on the RS2 but not by much and the stiffer front bar is going to make things worse. So, if you want more understeer then go for the softer rears on the RS2 setup
    1992 Audi 100 2.8 Quattro
    1993 Audi Cab 2.3
    1995 Audi URS6 Avant
    1999 Audi S8 D2 FL
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    • Rusty
      Super Moderator
      • Jun 2004
      • 18953
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #152
      If I had the cash, I'd love to get the higher rated coupe setup and swap the springs over, thus allowing me to ditch the big RARB.
      Cheers'en, AndyC
      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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      • Yaz
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        • May 2007
        • 445
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #153
        Originally posted by Rusty
        If I had the cash, I'd love to get the higher rated coupe setup and swap the springs over, thus allowing me to ditch the big RARB.
        LOL, I know the feeling, just to have an S2 would be nice!
        1992 Audi 100 2.8 Quattro
        1993 Audi Cab 2.3
        1995 Audi URS6 Avant
        1999 Audi S8 D2 FL
        2005 Skoda Octavia Elegance Variant TDi
        2012 VW CC BlueMotion Tech DSG

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        • Error404
          Super Moderator
          • Mar 2007
          • 19789
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #154
          Originally posted by Rusty
          ditch the big RARB.
          This is my plan too, but I am DIYing it using Koni adjustables I've already got and taking a stab at spring rates
          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
          Indigo ABY coupé
          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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          • Rusty
            Super Moderator
            • Jun 2004
            • 18953
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #155
            RS2 has a different hub and brake setup, hence the different notation. The dampers are considered an upgrade on an Avant and the ARBs are different too.
            Cheers'en, AndyC
            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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            • Jamo
              Retired OG Mod
              • Mar 2004
              • 21750
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #156
              Originally posted by Rusty
              RS2 has a different hub and brake setup, hence the different notation. The dampers are considered an upgrade on an Avant and the ARBs are different too.
              We know however they are stating the Avant is 100kg heavier than the RS2 at the rear which does not account for the parts mention.

              I've just switched between the avant and rs2 set and there is not 100kg difference!

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              • Rusty
                Super Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 18953
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #157
                Yes, as I said above, doesn't smell right to me.

                Their load notations seem to actually relate to the spring rates they use as I severely doubt there's a B4 that came off the production line with >950kg front axle weight. Softer springs may be used to give safer handling in this case, perhaps as a counter measure to the ARB differences...
                Cheers'en, AndyC
                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                • Error404
                  Super Moderator
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 19789
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #158
                  Originally posted by Yaz
                  Here are the spring rates for Audi S2 Coupe with M14 strut bolt:


                  10210013 weight upto 950kg – Front Axle 20-60-80 (20 N/mm) + 60-170 (60 N/mm) / Rear Axle 20-60-80 (20 N/mm) + 60-170 (60 N/mm)

                  10210014 weight from 951 to 1100kg – Front Axle 20-60-80 (20 N/mm) + 70-170 (70 N/mm) / Rear Axle 20-60-80 (20 N/mm) + 60-170 (60 N/mm)

                  Hope this helps

                  Yaz
                  OK, just to muddy the waters somewhat, I have been looking at some V1s today that have different part numbers and spring rates!

                  Front struts


                  with what looks like 90n/mm springs:


                  Rear struts


                  with 70n/mm springs


                  so are these then old specs?
                  90n/mm seems super stiff for V1s, that like 500lb
                  Can't find any of the part numbers listed in any of KWs current catalogs etc
                  Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                  Indigo ABY coupé
                  Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                  • blackS2
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                    • Apr 2010
                    • 455
                    • Country: Germany

                    #159
                    Mine from 04/2012



                    1100kg Coupe
                    Last edited by blackS2; 1 May 2012, 07:46.
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                    • SE_30
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 1114
                      • Home: England Current: Israel

                      #160
                      I'd just like to say a big thanks to Yaz for doing the business and supplying me with my KW's. Yaz is a top bloke and professional in every aspect. We spoke on numerous occasions during the order, build and shipping of my suspension. I have no problem in recommending Yaz to anyone who may be in the need of a KW kit, and I would certainly deal with him again should the occasion arise. I wish Yaz every success in the future of Darkside Performance.

                      Cheers Yaz
                      Stuart
                      Stuart
                      B2 90 quattro with boost

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                      • Yaz
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • May 2007
                        • 445
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #161
                        Hi Stuart, thank you so much for you kind words mate! You were an absolutely pleasure to deal with and as I mentioned before, it's the whole reason why I set up Darkside Peformance in the first place to help like minded enthusiasts. It makes this process worthwhile!

                        Please keep us updated with your project and let me know what you think of the KW V3's!

                        Thanks again Stuart and I look forward to hear from you soon.
                        Yaz

                        Originally posted by SE_30
                        I'd just like to say a big thanks to Yaz for doing the business and supplying me with my KW's. Yaz is a top bloke and professional in every aspect. We spoke on numerous occasions during the order, build and shipping of my suspension. I have no problem in recommending Yaz to anyone who may be in the need of a KW kit, and I would certainly deal with him again should the occasion arise. I wish Yaz every success in the future of Darkside Performance.

                        Cheers Yaz
                        Stuart
                        1992 Audi 100 2.8 Quattro
                        1993 Audi Cab 2.3
                        1995 Audi URS6 Avant
                        1999 Audi S8 D2 FL
                        2005 Skoda Octavia Elegance Variant TDi
                        2012 VW CC BlueMotion Tech DSG

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                        • Yaz
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • May 2007
                          • 445
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #162
                          Summer time bump!
                          1992 Audi 100 2.8 Quattro
                          1993 Audi Cab 2.3
                          1995 Audi URS6 Avant
                          1999 Audi S8 D2 FL
                          2005 Skoda Octavia Elegance Variant TDi
                          2012 VW CC BlueMotion Tech DSG

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                          • Skidplate
                            S2Forum Buff
                            • May 2012
                            • 35
                            • Country: United States

                            #163
                            Do you ship to the states? If so is the price the same or is it a bit more?

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                            • Yaz
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • May 2007
                              • 445
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #164
                              Originally posted by Skidplate
                              Do you ship to the states? If so is the price the same or is it a bit more?
                              Hi, just replied to your PM, thanks!
                              1992 Audi 100 2.8 Quattro
                              1993 Audi Cab 2.3
                              1995 Audi URS6 Avant
                              1999 Audi S8 D2 FL
                              2005 Skoda Octavia Elegance Variant TDi
                              2012 VW CC BlueMotion Tech DSG

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                              • Yaz
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                                • May 2007
                                • 445
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #165
                                Bumping this peeps as it fell off the page...
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                                1993 Audi Cab 2.3
                                1995 Audi URS6 Avant
                                1999 Audi S8 D2 FL
                                2005 Skoda Octavia Elegance Variant TDi
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