AAN T55 - ECU Connector Pin-out

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  • 4v6
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    Thanks very much for that info, I did have a look on etka and found those two numbers earlier in the week but couldnt categorically be sure they were what I wanted, but youve confiemed it for me.
    Also grand idea on converting to obd2 plug, may do that instead, seems a better way to me.
    Will likeley do that when i get my ecu back from Spink! :tup:

    Thanks again for your help, much appreciated.

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  • UrS4boy
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    Converting an Audi OBD2 plug to Function as an OBD1 port for some scanners

    Originally posted by newsh
    Or ignore the 2 pin plugs and go straight to an odb multipin
    <slaps forehead>

    Duh. I've even written/posted about that:

    Converting an Audi OBD2 plug to Function as an OBD1 port for some scanners:

    The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums


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  • newsh
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    Or ignore the 2 pin plugs and go straight to an odb multipin

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  • UrS4boy
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    Originally posted by 4v6
    Qucik question: Has anyone got the part numbers for the diagnostic plugs? I may be able to order them and pin them myself instead of hunting for them on the net. Thanks.
    My suggestion was to find them in an older Audi in a breaker's yard. However, I surprised myself and was able to find the 2 pin diagnostic plugs in the non-model specific Electrical section of ETKA (I chose 1993 for the year). Items 35 and 36:

    https://audi.7zap.com/en/rdw/elekt+v.../9/971-970010/

    White plug: 443972577E



    https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...ng/443972577e/

    Black plug: 443972580



    https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...ing/443972580/

    Wow I'm good.

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  • 4v6
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    Qucik question: Has anyone got the part numbers for the diagnostic plugs? I may be able to order them and pin them myself instead of hunting for them on the net.

    Thanks.

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  • 4v6
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    Checking my wiring harness vs the diagram I find the K line wire is green and black instead of green and red, its on the right pin tho.

    L line is correct pin and colours.

    I have found that pin 22 for the MIL light isnt installed in the T55 connector, so ill have to install one myself, no issue, only thing thats nagging is will the software/hardware in the ecu be coded to run an MIL.....
    Fun.

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  • 4v6
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    Thanks so much for that link to 12v.0rg, just the info i was after.
    It appears fuse s14 heads to current track 192/3, wire colour is black/blue comes out in track 70 through the mil light and splits off the dlc before hitting pin22.
    It answers the question of whether its fed voltage or grounded for me anyway!


    I had already read the post on using the scan tool, very usefull idea, I do already have a similar one, the U280 so dunno if thatll work, but if not ive already got a much more comprehensive tool which ive found useful : https://www.matcotools.com/catalog/p...R-129-PREMIUM/

    Thanks for your help on this, much appreciated.

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  • UrS4boy
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    113 page UrS4 wiring diagram.

    Originally posted by 4v6
    Looking at the diagram, it appears pins 13 and 55 would be jumpered to set the ecu into blink mode? Or would that do some damage?
    Originally posted by UrS4boy
    You might want to read this too:

    Retrieving ECU Fault codes - Please learn how:

    The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums


    You will want to find the black and white connectors from a wrecked car an hook them up so you can access the codes.
    Please read that post (again, if necessary).

    No use triggering anything unless you have a MIL light hooked up. Paul Nugent has posted on how to set up a MIL light.

    If you can't find that, down load this 113 page UrS4 wiring diagram and look at pages 47/113, 48/113 and 56/113 regarding Pins T55/13, T55/22 and T55/55 and the MIL light.



    But even better is set yourself up with those black and white connectors and buy a 2x2 adapter cable and this scanning tool (very reasonably priced) (off ebay uk)

    Last edited by UrS4boy; 27 May 2017, 14:40.

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  • 4v6
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    Thanks for the reply, some help but not quite what I was after.

    Looking at the diagram, it appears pins 13 and 55 would be jumpered to set the ecu into blink mode? Or would that do some damage?

    The mil light on pin22 shows only a partial circuit, which is why im a tad confused.
    Assuming a bulb of particular wattage say 1.5 watts is connected to that pin 22, is it the case that its grounded or fed 12 volts?
    The diagrams not clear at all on those points which is where my problem lies.

    The rest of the info is stellar.

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  • UrS4boy
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    Retrieving ECU Fault codes - Please learn how

    Originally posted by 4v6
    Thanks very much for the guide, its proven useful to me to say the least. ...Also I dont have an engine check light fitted, my plan is to incorporate one into a spare position on the rear of the instrument pod if possible, so I also need to know which ecu pins id need to allow connection of that item if anyone can help.
    The info is there in my first post in this thread.

    Pins 13, 22 and 55. Have another read of that post.

    You might want to read this too:

    Retrieving ECU Fault codes - Please learn how:

    The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums


    You will want to find the black and white connectors from a wrecked car an hook them up so you can access the codes.



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  • 4v6
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    Thanks very much for the guide, its proven useful to me to say the least.

    However, since my wiring harness has none of the plugs that would be used to interrogate the ecu via blink codes, can anyone advise the correct ecu pin numbers id need to use in order to allow reading of the blink codes and the procedure to perform it?
    Also I dont have an engine check light fitted, my plan is to incorporate one into a spare position on the rear of the instrument pod if possible, so I also need to know which ecu pins id need to allow connection of that item if anyone can help.

    Much appreciated.

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  • UrS4boy
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    Based on the S2 ECU schematic that I worked on yesterday, I've revised/updated the AAN ECU schematic in Post 1 in this thread with this one:



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  • A6_quattro
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    Hi

    Great help although I'm miserable in electronics.

    The reason for the question is because VEMS now have functionality for compensation for idle RefDC when ac is on.

    Thank you UrS4boy!

    Regards
    Hans

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  • UrS4boy
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    A/C Control Head and ECU Connections

    Originally posted by A6_quattro
    Does anyone know what type of signal pin 41 gets when ac is on?

    41/55-Signal from A/C control module -W/W - signal used by ECU to increase idle speed through ISV control when A/C compressor is activated (actually just maintains the idle speed when the extra load from A/C compressor is added to the system during idle)
    My guess is just a 5V signal (instead of a 0 V signal). However, you can find out for yourself, if you want (see below)

    In addition to the T55/41 white/white wire connection between the ECU and the A/C control head you've quoted above, there is also the connection at Pin T55/6:

    6/55-Connection to A/C Control Head -E87- G/Y - Used to shut off A/C for up to 12 seconds when throttle is opened rapidly at speeds under 7 kph and shut off A/C for up to 3 seconds when in first gear and throttle position is at 65 degrees or more (full load) Ref: VAG143.
    (Bonus reference -A/C control head diagnostics: http://www.audiworld.com/tech/int5.shtml)

    These two connections show up in this ECU pin-out diagram, meandering off to another wiring diagram from lines [110] and [111] here to lines [614] and [615] in the other diagram via some six pin connector "T6" somewhere.



    Well, it turns out, I've previously partially documented some of the six pin connectors in Connector Station 2 (passenger side front kick panel). "T6" is the blue connector on the connector rack. The wire colours of interest are the white/white wire and the green/yellow wire. Because of the exposed end of the pin or the fact that T6 is two parts, you could use a digital multimeter to probe the voltage changes in those two pins, T6/3 and T6/4.

    More Connector Stn 2 info: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/209044.phtml



    After Connector Stn 2, the white/white and green/yellow wires head over to the A/C control unit where they enter the A/C control unit on pins T12d/2 and T16d/12, respectively. You could always probe for voltages there as well.

    In this diagram, we pick up the [110]/[614] and [111]/[615] connections:



    Additional Bonus Reference:

    Changing Climate Control head bulbs (and accessing those T12d and T16d connectors):
    The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums


    Hope that helps.
    Last edited by UrS4boy; 9 April 2015, 17:22.

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  • A6_quattro
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    A/C input signal

    Does anyone know what type of signal pin 41 gets when ac is on?

    41/55-Signal from A/C control module -W/W - signal used by ECU to increase idle speed through ISV control when A/C compressor is activated (actually just maintains the idle speed when the extra load from A/C compressor is added to the system during idle)

    Regards
    Hans

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