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  • monkeyboy
    S2Forum Fanatic
    • Feb 2004
    • 68

    #1

    Cone filter anyone?

    Ive just got a large cone type filter for my 3b S2. Is it hard to fit? What i mean is is there more to it than a few nuts and bolts. There is a large plug on the induction that seams to be rendered usless once the cone is fitted? any ideas guys??????? Finally is it even worth fitting????
    monkeyboy
  • horvathg
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Dec 2003
    • 556

    #2
    Originally posted by monkeyboy
    Ive just got a large cone type filter for my 3b S2. Is it hard to fit? What i mean is is there more to it than a few nuts and bolts. There is a large plug on the induction that seams to be rendered usless once the cone is fitted? any ideas guys??????? Finally is it even worth fitting????
    I am also interested in this question. Would this make any change on an engine with K&N panel filter and ABY airbox?
    Gabor

    96 ABY coupe full except sunroof. With Porsche big red brakes, remapped ECU, xenon lights, RS2 MAF

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    • s2carlo
      S2Forum Addict
      • Aug 2003
      • 252
      • Country: Netherlands

      #3
      Originally posted by monkeyboy
      Ive just got a large cone type filter for my 3b S2. Is it hard to fit? What i mean is is there more to it than a few nuts and bolts. There is a large plug on the induction that seams to be rendered usless once the cone is fitted? any ideas guys??????? Finally is it even worth fitting????
      I had a K&N panel filter in my 3B, made no noticable difference
      Switched to a K&N cone (see threat) http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3863

      Made no real difference except the sound.
      Quit easy mounting, used two 90 degree bends and some flanches.
      Most difficult was getting the airbox out and the heatshield mounted again.

      Regards
      Carlo
      No power, no glory!
      S4 Avant, 2003, K&N-filter, 18", RNS-E, enough audio

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      • Ski
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Jan 2004
        • 2591
        • Home: Poland Current: United Kingdom

        #4
        for an extra £50 or so squid u can get a dahlback one which is made to fit with a heatshield.
        ABY Coupe
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        • nickhey
          S2Forum Fanatic
          • Jul 2003
          • 73
          • Country: United States

          #5
          Originally posted by Ski
          for an extra £50 or so squid u can get a dahlback one which is made to fit with a heatshield.
          Where from dude?

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          • s2driveruk
            Super Moderator
            • Jul 2003
            • 12696
            • Country: England

            #6
            I have a k&N on mine- took 30 mins to strip out the old 3b airbox and associated fittings... I cant think of any bits which are rendered useless by using the cone, it literally slips onto the end of the MAF unless you do as others have done and swing it through 180 degrees so it faces the front of the car again.

            Increases the intake noise and lift off whoosh sound and flows more air at the top end, expect tons of heatsoak in stationary traffic even with heat shielding and probably a bit of a flatspot once pulling away again if you have been standing for a few minutes. however once you are moving and if you have a good bit of ucting for fresh cool air then its great. Used mine for a few years without any problems with maf coating in oil or anything.

            Cheers,

            David
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            1992 3b S2 Coupe

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            • APNess
              S2Forum Addict
              • Jul 2003
              • 479
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              I suppose everyone knows by now about my 'heatshielding' and cone filter, but if you get one or more pipes to cold feed onto the filter, it will make a big difference, I found, to power, torque and throttle response.

              There's another thread where a forum member used pvc drainpipe to point the cone towards the front of the car. I used 2 silicon hose sections (which weren't for that purpose, but fit perfectly) which came with the cone and a metal T piece from Dialynx. Quick trim to fit, blagged a couple of 100mm jubilee clips from work (90s are a bit at the limit, with thickness of the silicon) and bob's ur aunties live in lover.

              I'll be finding other nooks and crannies to use for feeding air over the weekend hopefully.

              Chris M has two whacking great 76mm hose air feeds onto his, and the torque difference was amazing.

              I was a 'doubter' before on the merits of cones - not any more. Shield it right (yeah, I used tin foil, but it works, and I proved it!), feed it cold air, and the only downside is the HISSSS when changing gear - and for some that's not a downside!

              PJ
              'The Bacofoil Express'...

              No more.

              Leon TDI 150 run in now.

              Very slow.

              Needs a chip.

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              • robo
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Aug 2004
                • 2086
                • Home: Poland Current: England

                #8
                Originally posted by nickhey
                Where from dude?
                http://www.dahlbackracing.se/english/main.asp
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                Rob

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                • Jamo
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 21750
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Jesus H that thing cost £186.99!!! (€271)

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                  • Mihnea
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 1288
                    • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    You can build yourself one with PVC pipes for much less money than that. The heatshield is nice but nothing too complicated to fabricate yourself either...

                    Mihnea
                    '98 Silver Grey 2.7T S4, dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust with no cats, FMIC, BIG injectors, 10 Bar motorsport fuel pump, modded RS4 turbos, tubular exhaust manifolds, custom intakes, RS4 MAF, Bilstein PSS9, H&R ARBs, 19" BBS CH, custom remap, 511 BHP/505ft-lbs

                    www.MRCTuning.com
                    info@MRCTuning.com
                    Workshop Directions

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                    • Sweeper
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1317
                      • Country: Latvia

                      #11
                      Yeah , it costs a fortune and it's not a perfect fit. There are hole in the botton of shelding where it touches the inner wing that need to be covered , for perfection of course .

                      I would also cover the top of filter(more like original air box , becouse hot air still got there.
                      Vadim.

                      New engine (mechanical PKM head) , Alcon 332mm brakes , Pauter rods , Mahle pistons, GT30R , kw v2 sucpension , new exhaust. 608HP. For SALE !

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                      • horvathg
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 556

                        #12
                        There are so many types (brands) of cones available. The next street there is a guy with K&N parts, at the other street there is the Simota shop with chrome shield selection and there was a good lookng cone on UK ebay with unoiled filter cloth. Is there a difference or the cool air ducting is more of a deciding circumstance? And how large should the cone be? The largest?
                        Gabor

                        96 ABY coupe full except sunroof. With Porsche big red brakes, remapped ECU, xenon lights, RS2 MAF

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                        • Chris M
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 1030
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Yep,this is my setup.



                          Chris
                          Attached Files
                          Cheers,

                          Chris

                          Silver S2 Avant : Sold

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                          • s2driveruk
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 12696
                            • Country: England

                            #14
                            and mine..... similar to Chris's except that the cone is longer :mischeif:

                            Here's the lid on mine. Have to say it makes no great difference currently as it needs more insulation against the heat I think.

                            David
                            Attached Files
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                            1992 3b S2 Coupe

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                            • Sweeper
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 1317
                              • Country: Latvia

                              #15
                              David: Very nice.
                              Vadim.

                              New engine (mechanical PKM head) , Alcon 332mm brakes , Pauter rods , Mahle pistons, GT30R , kw v2 sucpension , new exhaust. 608HP. For SALE !

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