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  • #31
    Wonder of wonders - I created my own graphing tool based on the Power = m.a^2.t calculation and it basically works. I should have done it years ago My one works on acceleration data - no need for deceleration as I assume 25% drivetrain losses.

    The graph doesn't exactly match what the Ross-Tech one from that GTi Golf sample data, but then I was kinda sceptical of the shape of the power curve on that one with no sign of it tailing off at high rpm ranges.

    For the life of me I couldn't understand the Kinetic ENergy calculations in the Ross-Tech sheet - I'm assuming it was to do with the deceleration timing.

    I'll have to wait until later in the week to try some runs on my own car so that I can see the difference in stock and some chipped configurations. The main thing on this is not deadly accuracy of any one plot - its the differences measured on the same car of same weight and same weather if possible that will quantify the worthiness of various tweaks.


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    Paul
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    • #32
      Have you got the spreadsheet there to share?
      S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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      • #33
        Yes... and no... I can't remember my fooking password to my FTP server

        I'll get there in a moment - permutations


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        • #34
          Originally posted by S2central.net
          Yes... and no... I can't remember my fooking password to my FTP server

          I'll get there in a moment - permutations


          Paul
          Something is up - I can now logon but cannot post new files

          I've attached a zip of the rough calcs I did last night...


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          • #35
            I take it the drop in torque is likely due to the wind resistance increasing as you go faster? How does the original calculations work that out - I didn't know what to enter in the de acceleration column.
            S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Doug_RS2
              I take it the drop in torque is likely due to the wind resistance increasing as you go faster? How does the original calculations work that out - I didn't know what to enter in the de acceleration column.
              The original calcs just hurt my head - seemingly halfing the weight of the car, then using a fudge factor along with deceleration timings. My own isn't perfect but at least I understand it. I'll go with a drag factor as follows -

              0.1bhp per mph in range 1-25 mph
              0.2bhp per mph in range 26-50 mph
              0.3bhp per mph in range 51-75 mph
              0.4bhp per mph in range 76-100mph

              As a vague stab at quantifying aero/drag losses. At speeds beyond (on a test track) we'd be looking at least 0.5bhp per mph in my guesstimation.

              Primarily I think torque flattens off on that run cos thats what I'd expect the engine to do anyway. Didn't you think the original plots looked odd - especially power with no sign of it tailing off ?


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              • #37
                yeah it does look odd - I am going to have a look at the plots from my mates AMD'd 1.8T to see what the characteristics of that chipped engine are.

                There must be a more accurate fudge factor for losses - I have measurments so can see how the accelaration figures change while slowing down.
                S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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