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  • madpugger
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Sep 2007
    • 1901
    • Country: Scotland

    #1

    H Beam Rods

    Hi guys,

    I have had to order a full new set of rods from Aron as he doesn't currently have a single in the weight I need and it will take a few weeks to get.

    So I have for sale a set of 4 suitable for a 1.8T I hear. They have done ~200 miles. My number 1 shells spun and so the rod I am throwing away.

    A set of 5 is currently 390 Euro to the UK. A single is 80 Euro so if you want a full set and not in a hurry you could get Aron to get you a single and save a few quid.

    Say £200 for the 4?

    Le Mans 2012
    Nurburgring 700
    1995 S2 Avant
  • Acidburn
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Jun 2007
    • 13459
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    sorry for the off topic but when did this happen mate? your new engine or an old one?

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    • madpugger
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Sep 2007
      • 1901
      • Country: Scotland

      #3
      The one I rebuilt after the timing belt slipped. I think it was a change to fully synthetic oil issue

      Le Mans 2012
      Nurburgring 700
      1995 S2 Avant

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      • madpugger
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Sep 2007
        • 1901
        • Country: Scotland

        #4
        Sold pending payment...

        Le Mans 2012
        Nurburgring 700
        1995 S2 Avant

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        • Error404
          Super Moderator
          • Mar 2007
          • 19789
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          sorry for the OT, but why did the bearing spin? Not enough crush or another issue?
          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
          Indigo ABY coupé
          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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          • madpugger
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Sep 2007
            • 1901
            • Country: Scotland

            #6
            It didn't really spin as such, or at least that was not the cause, it basically was non existent when I took the rod out. The Crank and rod are badly scored on number 1 only, similar to Ross's issue after a rebuild. I have gone with the conclusion that it was moving to fully synth...

            Le Mans 2012
            Nurburgring 700
            1995 S2 Avant

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            • Jonnybravo
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Aug 2008
              • 2051
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Sounds like a right PITA

              Did you measure the clearances at all ?

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              • terrybullwon
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2006
                • 8782
                • Country: England

                #8
                Originally posted by Jonnybravo
                Sounds like a right PITA

                Did you measure the clearances at all ?
                Dunno about the oil theory.

                Cold / boiled or dirty oil yes, but more likely Insufficient clearances or over torqued and crushed the bearing.
                Chef

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                • Jonnybravo
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 2051
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Originally posted by terrybullwon
                  Dunno about the oil theory.

                  Cold / boiled or dirty oil yes, but more likely Insufficient clearances or over torqued and crushed the bearing.
                  Yeh got to be one of those tbh.

                  What bearings did you use ? How well does the rest of the crank measure up ?

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                  • terrybullwon
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 8782
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    Originally posted by madpugger
                    It didn't really spin as such, or at least that was not the cause, it basically was non existent when I took the rod out. The Crank and rod are badly scored on number 1 only, similar to Ross's issue after a rebuild. I have gone with the conclusion that it was moving to fully synth...
                    Yes the bearing is softer than the rod and the crank journals your pretty lucky it wore rather than fused together and then well a bearing welded to the crank and connecting rod is not pretty
                    Chef

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                    • Thuppu
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 4115
                      • Country: Finland

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jonnybravo
                      Sounds like a right PITA

                      Did you measure the clearances at all ?
                      Yes, you must always measure the clearence with these china-H-rods. There can be some problems with the tolerances here and then... A friend of my destroyd his engine in the same way.

                      Audi UrS4 Avant 2.5 20vt - twincharged - Project
                      Audi 80q B4 Sedan 2.2 20vt - Daily user
                      BMW 320d Touring e91 M-Sport - Daily user
                      BMW 740iA e38 - Project

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                      • Jonnybravo
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 2051
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12


                        Had a similar fault with a friends engine, turned out the crank needed a grind and should of had that done before the rods were fitted, he learnt the hard way !

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                        • madpugger
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 1901
                          • Country: Scotland

                          #13
                          Actually, no I didnt measure the clearances.

                          The Shells were OE audi with hardened on top shell.

                          Theses are not cheap rods from china, they are well tested ones form Aronmatic2...

                          Le Mans 2012
                          Nurburgring 700
                          1995 S2 Avant

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                          • Thuppu
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 4115
                            • Country: Finland

                            #14
                            Hmm, i think almost all these cheap rods like Scat, Eagle, SPM etc. are made in China.

                            Audi UrS4 Avant 2.5 20vt - twincharged - Project
                            Audi 80q B4 Sedan 2.2 20vt - Daily user
                            BMW 320d Touring e91 M-Sport - Daily user
                            BMW 740iA e38 - Project

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                            • V6quattro
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 949
                              • Country: Netherlands

                              #15
                              Always check the clearances with plastigage! Even on a carillo or so. Its a simple en cheap check.
                              1360kg/600Whp Avant 0-200km/h 9sec

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