my 400hp project

[Billman]

Sorry for going off topic

@Charlie
Does he give you Compressor maps of these turbos?? If yes, then ok my approach maybe was not right! But if not and you pay for the turbo then it will be too late to get infos!

Informations like: This turbo is good for 465 HP and has full boost at 3256 rpm are not good enough for me! If he as a tuner sells turbos separately than pakages then he should give compressor maps too! lets say i buy a turbo from him and go to mihnea for a remap, how will he know how to tune the car perfect with this turbo! By trial and error?? I dont think thats the right way!! Problem with pogea is that he says that he has maps for his turbos and also says that the turbos are KKK combines with IHI and Garret parts! I dont think that these maps exist! If there are maps for something like this then tell me where to find this! Even for the K26-27-29 8 there are no compressor maps, but this kind of turbo is so common every good audi turner knows how it behaves!

I think if someone whants to sale tuning parts then he should provide the customers with full information about the products! If not so, then he should at least show what is doable with each turbo! I havent see none of this! I have read only from one person on a german forum that has buy a turbo from pogea and then they had problem with eachother (dont know why) and he get to hohenester to do all the ECU mafs ect!

If i am wrond about it please correct me!

[Mihnea]

Anyone making claims of a turbo good for 465 HP on an RS2 exhaust manifold is either ignorant of thermodynamics of just pushing his luck.

The K26/27/29-8 from Pogea and TS Tuning and other people will make full boost at 5000+ RPM, I know it because I have tried, but it won't make any more than 420 reliable HP. The best turbo for 400 to 440 HP is a K26/27-8 we can supply, it makes full boost around 3600-3800 RPM, I have a compressor map for it, and 440 HP is the absolute highest limit on an RS2 exhaust manifold with that turbo. With a tubular or higher flow manifold, it can do up to 480 HP but that's about it....

HTH,

Mihnea

[monstereddie]

It is so funny to read what i might have said and what my parts are able to or not. Fact is, that our chargers were able to deliver 410hp on a regular RS2 Exhaust Manifold. We have Dynomeasurements with real good cooling conditions. Also we had the flows, the diagrams, the compressormaps - every spec. I dont understand how some people come out and post things like this without realizing, that i could read this. Our Charger is NOT a 26/27/29.8 that TS used to use. I dont want to attack anyone of those here, but here is the measurement of a member here in the board at 1.55bars -->



The Problem with this Turbocharger is:

a) it used to be too expensive
b) the full boost is at (1.95bars) 4200rpm
c) there is only 1 left - the production stopped cause 1 of the necessar parts is not available anymore

I do not believe that you can reach more than 420hp on a standard RS2 ExhM.
Not with this Turbocharger, not with any other turbo charger.
I also tested the Wagner Evo EM, RS2 ADU standard 309hp with Wagner without any electronical changes 321hp. Not a big deal. Wagner claims he has a >500hp car with the EM, i asked him for the dynoresults and the owner. I dont say i do not believe it, but i say i can not imagine.


Please do me a favor and ask me in case you have some questions before someone posts statements i never said. Charlie really spoke to me, and he can prove that i do not exagerate and also would never say something that is not possible. I´d rather say less than more.


@Billman: The result on your "tinydyny" is caused by the little fan in the front. Please look why he is correcting the pressure. Simply cause of the heat!! The ECU runs a knock mode correction and it results that it higheres the ignition and loweres the boost.

[Billman]

@Pogea

can you please post the compresor maps for these turbos? Do you sale now turbo upgrades or did you stop them all?

[A80Avant]

also what are your best results with the Wagner evo manifold so far?Carsten says it goes up to 500hp,how far have you taken it?

[Lupo911]

of course... if you use a old School KKK Turbo, what are you expecting?
Just look at the Maps of your Turbo and you will know why...

[monstereddie]

@billman: again, i am not interested in posting these information. Please ask MTM if they give you such an information on their own products. I still do all the upgrades, i still do all the conversions, right now i have four 5cylinder projects running and all of them are amazing.... i do also photo reports on all my cars and do them online.

I belive carsten, that the evo EM is doing the HP he claims. For my own 2.5l RS2 i am also using the Wagner Evo IM with a GT3082 AR81, 3.5" Downpipe with double 3 inch Piping right after the splitter. 2x 100cpi catalitic convertors and an exhaust with 4 tips and 2 throttles remote controlled.

my goal is between 450 and 500 real horse powers. i have loads of pictures.... here are some:

2.5liter ADU Engine


8 Caliper Brakesystem on 18" Pogea Racing BE Wheel -- ON A RS2!!!:


My "Bottom":
Full surface removal, zink coated, primered with epoxyprimer, recoated with Porsche Undercoat, after this painted with high gloss black - all axle parts soda blasted, zink coated and powdercoated Porsche Red or Black glossy..... Is anything MORE possible?

[terrybullwon]

So which diesel block are you using? also are you changing the rear brakes at all?

Cheers James

[monstereddie]

I use a ADU Block, other Crank, other Rods, other Pistons. Machinery Custom Made. Rear Brakes Porsche 968CS with Emergency Brake inside...

But anyways, this is not my Thread, please Back to topic.