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  • prj
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    • Mar 2010
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    #31
    The dyno does not lie, but the dyno states that this is measured flywheel power, not power at the hubs.
    So it is 473hp not 473whp.

    It is still a good result for this turbo and this engine.
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    • dani90
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      #32
      i dont care what dyno show, but how the car hit top of the turbo at 1.85bar ? this turbo is 525 hp, so there's no way to be 470

      Again, i dont care how hp is the car, but this is little ********s

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      • prj
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        #33
        Originally posted by dani90
        i dont care what dyno show, but how the car hit top of the turbo at 1.85bar ? this turbo is 525 hp, so there's no way to be 470
        It does not work like that. Yes, the 30R is rated at 525, but that does not mean your car is making that.
        The dyno clearly says that it is flywheel hp, so that is what it is.

        As I said 470 is a good result especially if you are running on normal pump gas.
        There is nothing wrong at all, don't worry too much.
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        • dani90
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          #34
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          Last edited by dani90; 29 December 2012, 16:41.

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          • dani90
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            #35
            Again, i will say ... i dont care how many hp is the car, just interested

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            • prj
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              #36
              Originally posted by dani90
              Ok i will agree with you, but how the car at "Mainline Dynolog AWD1500" the car show's 420 WHP at 4x4 ... just dont have the graphic
              All dynos read differently. You can basically know that your car is somewhere between 460 and 500 hp depending on dyno. The absolute numbers are not so important on dynos, they are used for tuning and to compare "before" and "after".
              Comparing numbers between different dynos is not very useful.
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              • Rocco
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                #37
                Originally posted by prj
                All dynos read differently. You can basically know that your car is somewhere between 460 and 500 hp depending on dyno. The absolute numbers are not so important on dynos, they are used for tuning and to compare "before" and "after".
                Comparing numbers between different dynos is not very useful.


                Have I remind you that Pub figures are very important?
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                • |CL|NIKI
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by dani90
                  so what, dyno at prospeed lie's ??
                  Niki is a friend of mine. But yes - the different dyno's shows different numbers.
                  His dyno numbers are very very optimistic You know. What the dyno shows it's on the engine.
                  Something more - before I was with gt3076 on my Coupe. It shows 290kw at the wheels with this turbo at 2 bars.There is no chance at your setup this turbo to makes 350kw at hubs. At engine - ok, but this is not the end ov it You know.
                  Second - You are welcome to the Varna's Dyno ( I will pay) to check really "how much" is You're ride.
                  And again - the Prospeed dyno is very very optimistic.
                  By the way - where did You bought this turbo?
                  Cheers
                  Last edited by |CL|NIKI; 29 December 2012, 21:55.
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                  • dani90
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                    #39
                    At Heed dyno i have 420 whp the day after Prospeed's dyno

                    Your turbo Kiro bought it for me, but after 1 week drive is gone ... and this is brand new

                    Let stop this discision, the car on Kondofrey drag have 11.8 time with veeeeeery bad gear's i almost broke 2 gear with full tunk and other 20-30kg garbage.You know there's no problem to run 11.5, even down on Sliven
                    Last edited by dani90; 30 December 2012, 08:28.

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                    • |CL|NIKI
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by dani90
                      At Heed dyno i have 420 whp the day after Prospeed's dyno

                      Your turbo Kiro bought it for me, but after 1 week drive is gone ... and this is brand new

                      Let stop this discision, the car on Kondofrey drag have 11.8 time with veeeeeery bad gear's i almost broke 2 gear with full tunk and other 20-30kg garbage.You know there's no problem to run 11.5, even down on Sliven
                      420 wheel Hp is little difficult at 1.8 bar pressure, but ok...What amount of looses Kiro put on that?
                      My car was 11.7sec with bad ceramic clut and this turbo at 2bar. But your car is a little less kg then mine. So - 11.5sec will be very very good time for that turbo, and hard to give it. But dont expect better time....I dont expect even that, but that is My opinion.
                      About Sliven - it is better place to do some own records, but we can't comment them before We see them....
                      Happy new Year!!
                      Last edited by |CL|NIKI; 1 January 2013, 12:17.
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                      • dani90
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                        #41
                        Happy new year!

                        My car is 1385 kg on Kazichene's kantar with 10 litre racing in Kondofrey i was with full reservoar and many other s.h.i.t.s. and the most important bad gear's

                        Your think my car is for drag ??? This car is my every,every day car with more than 100 km every day ... just try what will be my time.

                        The car is 420 whp at Heed ... looses ... i dont care.

                        Why you compare my car with your's ? the engine's are veeeeery, very diferent with.That you have 2.2 with gt30 on 2 bar what means, your car is faster ? dont think.Your 11.7 is not on official drag event i think

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                        • prj
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                          #42
                          Guys, stop the cat fight.
                          Drive your cars and be happy

                          And happy new year!
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                          • |CL|NIKI
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by dani90
                            Happy new year!

                            My car is 1385 kg on Kazichene's kantar with 10 litre racing in Kondofrey i was with full reservoar and many other s.h.i.t.s. and the most important bad gear's

                            Your think my car is for drag ??? This car is my every,every day car with more than 100 km every day ... just try what will be my time.

                            The car is 420 whp at Heed ... looses ... i dont care.

                            Why you compare my car with your's ? the engine's are veeeeery, very diferent with.That you have 2.2 with gt30 on 2 bar what means, your car is faster ? dont think.Your 11.7 is not on official drag event i think
                            Yes it is not.
                            I do not make comparisons - just give data, obtained with experience.
                            D, this dialogue has evolved because to being misled by inaccurate data is bad.
                            All our forums are filled with posts like that which is wrong.
                            Well, let every boast, but not to give false data. We all know what GT30 is capable , and to say that you can, or you've done some wonders with it is .....
                            We cleared this not understanding about wrong hp.
                            And yes - theoretically, my car was (now the thing's are different) faster because it was lighter(the car is 1300kg) and with lil more displacement, which means faster spooling. Again - you are welcome to Varna at to the Dyno and for lil competition.
                            I'm always ready, if My car is in good condition.
                            Dani, I appreciate and like You enthusiasm. I hope you're already on the right path, leaving behind project failures. I wish you finally come across the right people.
                            Accept my criticism as constructive.
                            I went on your way long ago....and will help You if You need and are not so much angry at Me
                            Cheers
                            800HP 800++Nm

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                            • dani90
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                              • Rusty
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by prj
                                Guys, stop the cat fight.
                                Drive your cars and be happy

                                And happy new year!
                                Poacher turned gamekeeper He does have a point though

                                If you can learn from the experience of others then it would seem to be a good idea to me.
                                Cheers'en, AndyC
                                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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