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  • Error404
    Super Moderator
    • Mar 2007
    • 19789
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #31
    easy peasy

    two bolts at the top (left if looking from friont of car) on the pivot, then the bolt for the tensioner on the rad side
    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
    Indigo ABY coupé
    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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    • Key Walshe
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      • Feb 2007
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      #32
      Looks like GSF & Europarts aren't worth the boxes they come in then? Thanks for the advice, I shall avoid them like I would a Citroen...

      I'm monitoring some on eBay, UK and elsewhere, but, I still don't know the part number for the PAS pump - surely someone must know it? I've done a search on here to no avail (perhaps not looking hard enough!) and online and not much use there either...
      Last edited by Key Walshe; 17 January 2008, 17:59.
      Audi 80 S2 Nothelle N300 Avant, 1993, Amethyst Pearl VW/Audi Car Magazine article about this very car
      Audi A6 Avant 2.5 TDi, 1995, Arctic Silver (now sold)
      BMW E36 325i Coupe, 1993, Diamond Black (now sold)
      VW Polo 1.0L 6N, 1998, Red (the missus' car)
      Aprilia Rs250 motorbike, 1998, Black (the weekend toy)

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      • s20ale
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        • Aug 2004
        • 476
        • Country: England

        #33
        Aby Pump No 8G0.145.165 X , As far i i'm aware they are engine code dependant e.g 3b, 7a, aby.

        HTH'S
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        • Key Walshe
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          • Feb 2007
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          #34
          Thank you very much, I have just found another part number whilst searching a little harder in THIS thread which was 035 198 049, which Jas11n says is for the pump, so could that be for a different engine code?


          If so, does anyone know the definate code for an Avant, ABY engined PAS pump?
          Audi 80 S2 Nothelle N300 Avant, 1993, Amethyst Pearl VW/Audi Car Magazine article about this very car
          Audi A6 Avant 2.5 TDi, 1995, Arctic Silver (now sold)
          BMW E36 325i Coupe, 1993, Diamond Black (now sold)
          VW Polo 1.0L 6N, 1998, Red (the missus' car)
          Aprilia Rs250 motorbike, 1998, Black (the weekend toy)

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          • GT500
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Jun 2006
            • 2181
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #35
            I am waiting for ZF to give me a price/availability, taken some tracking down in there massive organisation.
            should have some contact in the next day or so.
            I know the pump you want, its the same as mine.
            Rob..
            94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
            87 UR 20v ABY
            97 S6 Avant
            96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
            1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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            • s20ale
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              • Aug 2004
              • 476
              • Country: England

              #36
              Here you go, discussed in detail, something to mull over.


              @Rob, good one mate let us know how you get on as i'm in the same boat.
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              • markrs2
                S2Forum Enthusiast
                • Feb 2004
                • 185

                #37
                Originally posted by Key Walshe
                Thank you very much, I have just found another part number whilst searching a little harder in THIS thread which was 035 198 049, which Jas11n says is for the pump, so could that be for a different engine code?


                If so, does anyone know the definate code for an Avant, ABY engined PAS pump?
                035 198 049 is the part number for the seals for the old type pumps fitted between 1980 and 1988. As previously stated the pump you want is 8G0 145 165 X and is £417 plus vat exchange from audi. The seal kit for this pump is 035 198 049 A and is £12.03 plus the vat.

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                • Jas11n
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 5067
                  • Country: England

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Key Walshe
                  Thank you very much, I have just found another part number whilst searching a little harder in THIS thread which was 035 198 049, which Jas11n says is for the pump, so could that be for a different engine code?
                  Ahem I don't quote that number, someone else does and you've missed the "A" off the end which is correct for a full seal kit as I say in that thread.
                  That thread started by me is just for the cross hatched plug and seal.

                  Originally posted by Dan_s2_coupe
                  is the correct number for the ABY 035 198 049 A
                  Originally posted by Jas11n
                  Thats the part number for the whole pump.
                  Meaning a seal kit for the whole pump. Thread is about seals not the whole PAS pump itself.

                  Jas..
                  2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
                  2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
                  1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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                  • Key Walshe
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                    • Feb 2007
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                    #39
                    My mistake, sorry Jas

                    And thanks for the code numbers, that'll make it much easier to find one now.

                    And thanks s20ale, good read on that topic, very helpful!
                    Audi 80 S2 Nothelle N300 Avant, 1993, Amethyst Pearl VW/Audi Car Magazine article about this very car
                    Audi A6 Avant 2.5 TDi, 1995, Arctic Silver (now sold)
                    BMW E36 325i Coupe, 1993, Diamond Black (now sold)
                    VW Polo 1.0L 6N, 1998, Red (the missus' car)
                    Aprilia Rs250 motorbike, 1998, Black (the weekend toy)

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                    • Key Walshe
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                      • Feb 2007
                      • 422
                      • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                      #40
                      Just found THIS item on eBay with the description:


                      REMOVED FROM 94 AUDI 80 COUPE

                      PART NUMBERS FROM PUMP AS FOLLOWS

                      8691 955 153

                      0111708 3.93

                      054 145 165K 100



                      The first 3 digits of the part number differ from the one that's listed for an S2, but, would it fit an S2 Avant ABY?
                      Audi 80 S2 Nothelle N300 Avant, 1993, Amethyst Pearl VW/Audi Car Magazine article about this very car
                      Audi A6 Avant 2.5 TDi, 1995, Arctic Silver (now sold)
                      BMW E36 325i Coupe, 1993, Diamond Black (now sold)
                      VW Polo 1.0L 6N, 1998, Red (the missus' car)
                      Aprilia Rs250 motorbike, 1998, Black (the weekend toy)

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                      • GT500
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 2181
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Key Walshe
                        Just found THIS item on eBay with the description:


                        REMOVED FROM 94 AUDI 80 COUPE

                        PART NUMBERS FROM PUMP AS FOLLOWS

                        8691 955 153

                        0111708 3.93

                        054 145 165K 100



                        The first 3 digits of the part number differ from the one that's listed for an S2, but, would it fit an S2 Avant ABY?

                        There goes the chance of a cheap one

                        ZF are bloody slow to deal with, I will chase them up on monday.
                        Rob..
                        94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                        87 UR 20v ABY
                        97 S6 Avant
                        96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
                        1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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                        • Key Walshe
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                          • Feb 2007
                          • 422
                          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                          #42
                          You reckon that could be a worthwhile bid then? Or would the money put into that and effort getting it to fit be better spent on one that will definately fit, even if it costs more?
                          Audi 80 S2 Nothelle N300 Avant, 1993, Amethyst Pearl VW/Audi Car Magazine article about this very car
                          Audi A6 Avant 2.5 TDi, 1995, Arctic Silver (now sold)
                          BMW E36 325i Coupe, 1993, Diamond Black (now sold)
                          VW Polo 1.0L 6N, 1998, Red (the missus' car)
                          Aprilia Rs250 motorbike, 1998, Black (the weekend toy)

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                          • GT500
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 2181
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #43
                            Don't know, part numbers don't match. Not a good start.
                            Shame ZF haven't got back to me yet. They have our pump listed so should be able to supply.
                            Rob..
                            94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                            87 UR 20v ABY
                            97 S6 Avant
                            96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
                            1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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                            • Key Walshe
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 422
                              • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                              #44
                              I've just been offered an S2 PAS pump from a 3b for £70, I'd guess that should be ok or atleast fixable onto an ABY engine? They can't be that different, can they?

                              But, I have found THIS thread which contains this quote by saltinot

                              I've got the brackets from both 7A and ABY/ADU in the garage. The 7A/3B/ABY/ADU pumps will all fit in either bracket. However, you'll find that the ABY style bracket will not work with the 7A/3B setup.

                              Somewhere during production the pumps changed slightly. They went from using a sealing washer(early style) to an O-ring(later style), along with a banjo bolt, for attaching the hydraulic lines. This might explain the difference in the numbers. Physically the pumps are very similar.
                              So, this is the issue it seems, will this fot an ABY! According to the above, no, but if I were to et the 3b bracket aswell, would that fit an ABY without any issues? This problem is started to drive me crazy
                              Audi 80 S2 Nothelle N300 Avant, 1993, Amethyst Pearl VW/Audi Car Magazine article about this very car
                              Audi A6 Avant 2.5 TDi, 1995, Arctic Silver (now sold)
                              BMW E36 325i Coupe, 1993, Diamond Black (now sold)
                              VW Polo 1.0L 6N, 1998, Red (the missus' car)
                              Aprilia Rs250 motorbike, 1998, Black (the weekend toy)

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                              • GT500
                                S2Forum Fiend
                                • Jun 2006
                                • 2181
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #45
                                Its the different sealing washer types thats the difference. Ok if you have the correct banjo bolts for pump.

                                Good fun int it!

                                Try the peage part first!
                                Rob..
                                94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                                87 UR 20v ABY
                                97 S6 Avant
                                96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
                                1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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