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  • daren
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    • Apr 2008
    • 38
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Camshaft cap

    Does anyone have a camshaft cap from an aby that they'd like to be relieved of?
    it's the thin one that sits at the front of the inlet cam, Mine has decided it would rather be in two pieces

    Thanks,
    Daren
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  • AndyP
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2004
    • 6049
    • Country: England

    #2
    You can't just swap individual caps as they are all line bored on the head. You will need to find a replacement and get them all re-bored or find a new head. Sorry
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    • daren
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      • Apr 2008
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      #3
      You will need to find a replacement and get them all re-bored or find a new head
      That's what i'm hoping to do, the head is at the machine shop now waiting for a cap to play with..
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      • AndyP
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        • Feb 2004
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        • Country: England

        #4
        In that case, I think I have one. Let me go and have a look in the garage.
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        • hoffer76
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          • Mar 2008
          • 230
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          I have cam caps and a friend runs an engine shop in Poole,Dorset if you get stuck he will can fix cheaply.

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          • AndyP
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Feb 2004
            • 6049
            • Country: England

            #6
            Found it, if you want it, PM me your address and I'll put it it the post
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            • daren
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              • Apr 2008
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              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Andy, pm sent..

              Thanks Daren
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              • UrS4boy
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                • Feb 2006
                • 11859
                • Country: Canada

                #8
                Originally posted by daren
                Does anyone have a camshaft cap from an aby that they'd like to be relieved of?it's the thin one that sits at the front of the inlet cam, Mine has decided it would rather be in two pieces Thanks,Daren
                As AndyP has pointed out, the camshaft caps were rifle bored with that particular head and are, in theory, unique to that head.

                Two things:

                1. How did you break it? (Confession time). This will be a service to the UrS community because we will know what not to do. (Sorry)

                2. This is a real flyer (no garantee): I *wonder* if the cap can be welded (on the top and sides (perhaps) while secure in place in the head. Serious precautions to prevent splatter and a very high aluminium welding skill set will be required.
                RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
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                • daren
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                  • Apr 2008
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                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  How did you break it? (Confession time). This will be a service to the UrS community because we will know what not to do
                  Nothing to hide really, removed cams to have valves reground refitted cams making sure i spread the tension over all the caps, didn't get to torque tightness and it broke, The cap also has a small crack coming from one of the stud holes, I'm getting the feeling that the cap isn't the correct one for the head.

                  Hopefully Andy is sending me one to play with i can use this as a template to make a blank that can be machined to put the hole in the correct place or can be filled with weld and bored again. I'll let you know how it works out.
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                  • AndyP
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                    • Feb 2004
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                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    It'll be in the post tomorrow.
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                    • UrS4boy
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                      • Feb 2006
                      • 11859
                      • Country: Canada

                      #11
                      Cam Cap Tightening Procedure

                      Daren: I wonder whether you *might* have had the cam bearing cap flipped end for end. When you stand on the exhaust side of the head, the numbers are upside down. From the inlet side, they are right side up, as per the diagram below. If you flip a cam cap, end for end, it will be misaligned, potentially causing it to crack and break.

                      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                      • JP
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 1858
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        The small one isn't stamped with a number, however if you look you'll see they have a recess on one corner of all the caps, make sure these are all facing the same direction.
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                        • UrS4boy
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                          • Feb 2006
                          • 11859
                          • Country: Canada

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RWD19T
                          The small one isn't stamped with a number, however if you look you'll see they have a recess on one corner of all the caps, make sure these are all facing the same direction.
                          If we are talking the "cap" at the very front of the exhaust cam, the one that holds the cam seal in place, then I am guessing that one from another car will very likely fit OR you could try welding it (on the outside surfaces) since it is not really taking much stress, just enough to keep the camshaft seal in place and not leaking.

                          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                          • daren
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                            • Apr 2008
                            • 38
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Andyp,
                            The cap arrived today, many thanks, let me know if you want anything for it...

                            UrS4boy, Interesting diagrams.
                            I replaced the caps in the same position as they were removed (this is a secondhand engine) I noticed that caps 6 and 9 were on the wrong place, having had a play this morning they are infact interchangable.

                            Maybe i got lucky and didn't get a friday afternoon head

                            Thanks all for your help.
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                            • AndyP
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 6049
                              • Country: England

                              #15
                              Pretty good service from Royal Snail!!

                              I don't want anything for it, the head it was on is scrap so it's no good to me. Let me know if you manage to save it.
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