wanted 155mm rifle drilled rods

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  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    On topic pauter can do these s mine are 155mm rifle drilled

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    • Pat D
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Dec 2011
      • 748
      • Country: Australia

      #17
      Originally posted by Jamo
      Mine is built with 155 allows for better compression height on the piston

      Americans tend to use 159mm strokers
      Scandanavians tend to use 155mm strokers

      What do you mean by better compression height?

      Wouldn't this require more material in the crown and therefore a heavier piston?
      ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

      B5 1.8T quattro

      B4 2.3 (decommissioned)

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      • URQguy
        S2Forum Addict
        • Sep 2008
        • 245
        • Country: United States

        #18
        Yeah, what is better about it? We have built a few tall deck 95.5 with 160x20 rods and 29.0mm compression heights, and they have never had ringland failures. I recently windowed a tall deck with a Scat 159x20mm rod failure, but never have I had pistons problems with 29mm compression heights on our 160 rods.
        1981 URQuattro with the TIAL GT35r.
        2007 Infinity g35

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        • diesel des
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Feb 2004
          • 3896

          #19
          Urq guy, are your rods rifle drilled? What's your thoughts on this? Price?

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          • diesel des
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Feb 2004
            • 3896

            #20
            Jamo, any contacts for the rods your useing. Did they come direct or through which dealer. I have a feeling they arnt cheep. I can get non drilled 155 rods and good pistons for 850 quid. Very tempted.

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            • Jamo
              Retired OG Mod
              • Mar 2004
              • 21750
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              Originally posted by URQguy
              Yeah, what is better about it? We have built a few tall deck 95.5 with 160x20 rods and 29.0mm compression heights, and they have never had ringland failures. I recently windowed a tall deck with a Scat 159x20mm rod failure, but never have I had pistons problems with 29mm compression heights on our 160 rods.
              Chill
              Pays your money take your choice 155mm means you have the same ch as oem pistons
              As said there ate two ways of building and mine is done the way of the scandis

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Originally posted by diesel des
                Jamo, any contacts for the rods your useing. Did they come direct or through which dealer. I have a feeling they arnt cheep. I can get non drilled 155 rods and good pistons for 850 quid. Very tempted.
                They were direct from pauter
                No not cheap but rods aren't something you scrimp on

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                • Pat D
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 748
                  • Country: Australia

                  #23
                  I don't see the point in saying thats how others build an engine without shedding some supportive info. Why not use rods shorter than 155mm and pistons to suit if they are cheap enough.

                  I agree with Error404 and JP's advice with the rifle drilling for longevity, and I have gone the same way with mine. As for rod length, you will have less piston side force during the stroke with longer rods which would mean less scuffing and wear on piston rings. If I was to build another stroker, I will choose to go with 160mm rods and 9A pistons, which if I remember correctly have a compression height of 29.5mm. Perfect setup for a stroker IMO.
                  Last edited by Pat D; 19 February 2013, 08:34.
                  ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

                  B5 1.8T quattro

                  B4 2.3 (decommissioned)

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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    Well the point is any stroker is a custom build there is no supportive information for not building it this way or the other
                    But as typical when people who have gone the 159mm route swear its the best way because of rod ratio when I checked the difference in rod ratio between the two it is not even worth mentioning
                    155mm scandis say compression height and free revving is better
                    Pays your money make your own fricking choice
                    Don't have a go at diesel des asking where he can get these rods ( it seems I'm the only person to have answered his question btw )

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                    • Jamo
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 21750
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Didn't Aron have 155mm rods for sale a while back? I don't know if they are rifle drilled though

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                      • Error404
                        Super Moderator
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 19789
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        He was going to make some but there was not enough interest IIRC.

                        Remember on any build everything is a compromise and there is more than one way to skin a cat
                        Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                        Indigo ABY coupé
                        Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                        • diesel des
                          S2Forum Possessed
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3896

                          #27
                          Arons rods wernt drilled. I'm getting some interesting prices so will let you know. Cheers all for the help

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                          • |CL|NIKI
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 380
                            • Home: Bulgaria Current: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            I got mine for 28 usd for 1. Chinese can manufactured any size /dimension. They are not drilled too. But are strong enaugh.
                            800HP 800++Nm

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                            • andy10v
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 5996
                              • Country: Scotland

                              #29
                              Originally posted by diesel des
                              Urq guy, are your rods rifle drilled? What's your thoughts on this? Price?
                              $695 for 160mm
                              They feature 20mm wrist pins along with riffle drilling for additional cooling to the pin.
                              Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                              Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                              Sold ABY-stock

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                              • |CL|NIKI
                                S2Forum Addict
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 380
                                • Home: Bulgaria Current: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Pat D
                                I don't see the point in saying thats how others build an engine without shedding some supportive info. Why not use rods shorter than 155mm and pistons to suit if they are cheap enough.

                                I agree with Error404 and JP's advice with the rifle drilling for longevity, and I have gone the same way with mine. As for rod length, you will have less piston side force during the stroke with longer rods which would mean less scuffing and wear on piston rings. If I was to build another stroker, I will choose to go with 160mm rods and 9A pistons, which if I remember correctly have a compression height of 29.5mm. Perfect setup for a stroker IMO.
                                What boost and HP wil 9A pistons hold-they are not forged IMO???
                                800HP 800++Nm

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