Boost Controllers

[alg]

Fully agree Paul.
In addition do you not run the risk of exceeding the ecu failsafe parameters ?

[tekkno435]

At £265 + postage I don't think a boost controller represents particularly good value for money on the S2

well i do, so i beg to differ.

plus you have the hassle of installing and configuring the thing.

What? Righto everyone. Stop the modding, it's official. It's all hassle and then you'll have to reconfigure things.
I don't believe i read that correctly so i'll go back and have another look. You DO modify ECU code don't you?
We are going to eternally disagree.
How many boost controllers, exactly, have you fitted? I think i know the answer to this one.

graham.

[S2central.net]

Oh graham graham graham... yes I do modify some ECU code - cos that changes the boost profile, timing and fuel accordingly. A boost controller simply doesn't do that ... thats why I've never bothered to try one !

The homefried ABY ECU is £250 and it requires no configuration or wiring in by the end user. Why spend more on a boost controller that can't adjust timing or fuel when extra work is required to fit the thing ?

Peace for fupp sake ! You like boost controllers, I don't - nobody died because of it...

Paul

[tekkno435]

Paul, i just think that occasionally you may be guilty of making a comment without thinking it through thoroughly, that's all. You made two statements which i don't believe have any value. First off, you claim that £265.00 doesn't represent good value for money on the S2. Well what does represent good value for money on the S2 because i for one have discovered that you don't get much for £250 for the S2 in any event, everything is expensive, welcome to Audi country:-).
As for claiming that you then have the "hassle of installing and configuring..." this leaves me speechless. I thought that's what this was all about? It is NO hassle then to stick an ECU in the post to you? It is NO hassle to follow the many DIY "how to's" on your S2 site? If your hobby is too much hassle, well i would suggest you find another. I find the latter remark unacceptable from a person who advocates a large amount of DIY maintenance. What if it becomes too much hassle to check brake pads, tyre temperatures, oil and coolant levels?
Sorry, that remark is out of character for any person who advocates DIY, i challenge you to justify it.
Fair comment that you can do a modified ECU for £250.00ish. I can do you a boost controller for £110.00 if you like, it is not the same thing. Mark has done a couple of Apexi controllers (the one i wish i had bought) for £265.00. They retail at £340.00, this represents a substantial saving. If you want one, they are £340.00, it makes your £250.00 start to look cheap, but what could i, or any other person, start with a mail order S2 ecu when we are running highly modified motors?
You see, one size does not "fit all". I merely refer to my opening statement, you made a comment without fully considering all of the various elements of the thread.

graham.

graham.

[S2central.net]

Clearly you want the last word on this - so fine - I really can't be bothered. You win - you typed more words than me...

[Rusty]

Chaps,

Apologies for resurrecting a thread that obviously split opinions but I am intersted in whether there are any economy benefits of this. I assume that the reduced boost means that the fuelling and timing act as if manually using less throttle and therefore could be used to limit boost and fuelling when it is not required, i.e. on the daily slog to work... Then, at the weekends etc, the boost can be returned to the correct, mapped level to make the car fun again.

Does the ECU become confused why it is at WOT and is not getting the boost it expects... or is this all covered by the map? If the car was remapped I assume that the boost controller would perform the same function as above using the revised map.

Hope I haven't dropped too many clangers!

[BRY]

I have read that it will reduce fuel consumption if used as above on other forums (SCOOBY DOOs ). Don't know if the same applies on S2s

[WabTheKing]

can i be a black sheep?

[rotoryboy]

Is that after you saw the Avant

[WabTheKing]

good job its all polished - easy to wipe!!!

[rotoryboy]

[BRY]

Wtf?

[Jamo]

Wtf?

Wab at Donny i believe cronning over Tekkno435 car

[tekkno435]

I have read that it will reduce fuel consumption if used as above on other forums (SCOOBY DOOs ). Don't know if the same applies on S2s

Fundamentally, this statement is correct. There are many other benefits too. I would recommend you buy and fit one and report back:-)

graham.

[dan_b]

So making fuel consumption worse is a benefit is it?
When I had the S2 re-chipped by MTM, I got a significant increase in power and torque, and also got an increase in fuel economy. The re-map works, it works well and keeps the engine safe, and doesn't require flashing lights in the cabin to work.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I still can't see why you'd want a boost controller when you can have a re-map for less money and just get on with driving?