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  • denniselbows
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Mar 2007
    • 740
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    the vems unit looks like a fairly easy unit to install. but how easy is it to use could some one with very little knollage in mapping use it safley i mean not melt the engine on first attempt. i know mapping is a knollage that takes time to learn but only takes a short time to **** an engine up. has any one tryed one in a 3b s2 and how does it perform?
    never set your expectations to high that way you are never disapointed

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    • Mark Halligan
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jul 2003
      • 2001
      • Country: England

      #17
      Originally posted by xgordyx
      Yup
      Some rather nice parts from 034 i was planning in the future
      There's no problem buying stuff direct from 034, I've bought some gear from them just lately. Of course there is the customs but thats usually hard to avoid when getting stuff from the US.

      I think NoNonsense (Joe) here is also a supplier of 034 and have heard good things about him, ask Jamo.

      Must say I do like the idea of going standalone, either 034 0r VEMS. I think Tom C has used 034 on his Golf project to.
      Mark - Modded

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      • Tonks4x4
        Retired OG Mod
        • Nov 2005
        • 3062
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        Hi again, I did several months of looking for stand alone ecu kits I rounded it down to

        Pectel = Was too expensive by the time I had bought all the extra bits
        DTA = Could not find many I5 set-up's other than GNuts's golf
        Motec = Again out of my budget
        Vems = again it was a foreign website and I don't want to struggle with aftermarket support

        Then 034 which is the one I have decided to run with as it just seems real good value for money, and as I need to buy bigger injectors, coil packs, fuel rail, and loads of other bits it makes sense to me to just get the Stage IIc package.
        Most of the kits appear to be able to do the same stuff.... 034 comes with facility for launch control and anti-lag aswell so which ever you decide I guess there will be other folk on here running all of the above types of system. That I would guess they will help you out if you have problems.

        And from your other posts about balancing etc it looks like we are going to have a similar build, If you decide the 034 route I'll give you a dig out no worries.
        Audi Nut!!!

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        • K7ERG
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Mar 2004
          • 1711
          • Country: Scotland

          #19
          Vems user here.
          Just need to get the rest of the car finished so i can map it.
          Audi A6 AEL 5cyl Quattro breaking.
          Audi A5 3.0tdi Quattro Stage 2
          07947385043

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          • denniselbows
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Mar 2007
            • 740
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            just a thought with the vems p&p is it posible to use the motronic ecu still. i dont mean at the same time, say if the car was your daily driver and you are not happy with the map and needed more time fine tuning it could you just plug the ecu back in or is it once you have changed that's it no going back with out redoing the wiring etc
            never set your expectations to high that way you are never disapointed

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            • K7ERG
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Mar 2004
              • 1711
              • Country: Scotland

              #21
              You could but you would have to reverse the crank sensor wiring for stock triggering. Correct me if i am wrong...........experts

              The way i look at it is No MAF needed, No idle control valve needed, and there is a way to stop using the POS. So if you think of the cost of these parts if they go wrong then VEMS is a Great investment if your looking for more power and the added extras like launch contol and anti lag etc.

              Craig
              Audi A6 AEL 5cyl Quattro breaking.
              Audi A5 3.0tdi Quattro Stage 2
              07947385043

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              • a4kquattro
                S2Forum Addict
                • Feb 2005
                • 411
                • Country: United States

                #22
                Originally posted by K7ERG
                You could but you would have to reverse the crank sensor wiring for stock triggering. Correct me if i am wrong...........experts
                incorrect. Motronic doesn't care about the pin swap, it runs 100% fine both ways.
                Marc Swanson
                Proprietor, EFI Express
                95.5 //S6 Avant
                90' Coupe Quattro V8 4.2L twin turbo
                93' //S4
                83' UrQ
                97' F250 7.3 diesel

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                • denniselbows
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 740
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Originally posted by a4kquattro
                  incorrect. Motronic doesn't care about the pin swap, it runs 100% fine both ways.
                  so you could swap straight back to motronic if it was needed ?
                  never set your expectations to high that way you are never disapointed

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                  • terrybullwon
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 8782
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    On another note,

                    Theres a few people that use NIRA



                    I like the looks of this
                    Chef

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                    • UrS4Eben
                      S2Forum Enthusiast
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 128
                      • Home: South Africa Current: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Let me know if you want to be put in touch with the people that manufacture Gotech....
                      '92 UrS4 Avant
                      www.olddubs.com
                      www.expatsa.com

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                      • Mark Halligan
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 2001
                        • Country: England

                        #26
                        Briefly off topic (kind of)

                        @ Moderators/Admin

                        Reading this and some of the other recent interesting threads about standalone systems, and the number of members going over to various Standalones, would it not be a good idea to start a new 'Aftermarket Engine Management' Forum in the technical section?
                        Mark - Modded

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                        • K7ERG
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 1711
                          • Country: Scotland

                          #27
                          Good idea
                          Audi A6 AEL 5cyl Quattro breaking.
                          Audi A5 3.0tdi Quattro Stage 2
                          07947385043

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                          • K7ERG
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 1711
                            • Country: Scotland

                            #28
                            Oh i stand corrected
                            Still new to Vems
                            Audi A6 AEL 5cyl Quattro breaking.
                            Audi A5 3.0tdi Quattro Stage 2
                            07947385043

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                            • denniselbows
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 740
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #29
                              Originally posted by madwolf_Uk
                              Really?
                              mrc are now 034 distributers acording to the 034 website
                              never set your expectations to high that way you are never disapointed

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                              • Jamo
                                Retired OG Mod
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 21750
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                If you want 034 parts speak to NoNonsense, he is also excellent with ECU installations.

                                Custom charges are about £30 well they were for my order which was worth about 300 times that amount.

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