Vems Idle Troubleshooting

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  • peter_jensen
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Jun 2007
    • 103
    • Country: Denmark

    #1

    Vems Idle Troubleshooting

    Hi

    As I can see a lot of people have trouble getting the idle to work as the monotonic.

    Question: Have you remembered to install a 1N4007 Diode to the iac + -
    If not it’s not possible to get a good idle.

    I have been running Vems since 2004 on different cars and now on S2 that idles like the monotonic.

    Firmware is 1.1.44 14x16

    Remember:

    Have almost the same values in VE and Spark tables in the idle area (bottom left) if you add fuel you rice the rpm. Work with lambda 0,98-1 spark should be around 12-15 degrees.

    Please report back if you try my setup. We need to know to make Vems Ecu´s better.






    #Peter



    My config





    Last edited by peter_jensen; 21 January 2009, 12:08.
    Vems since 2004
  • GazzaG60
    S2Forum Freak
    • Mar 2007
    • 4133
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    good post there.

    i have not done this. i dont use the idle valve and i have good idle after initial start anyway.

    i will look at doing this.

    whats firmware level are you on.

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    • Billman
      S2Forum Freak
      • Nov 2004
      • 4129

      #3
      i have installed the diode but it didnt helped much and now i am using without the Idle valve! But if it is better now (i used firmware 1.1.27beta) then i am going to try it again with 1.1.44alpha.

      Did you use EGO Correction at low RPM (if yes what)?

      Did you managed to get the knock sampling to work?
      Last edited by Billman; 21 January 2009, 14:12.
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      • peter_jensen
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Jun 2007
        • 103
        • Country: Denmark

        #4
        Vems

        Hey Bill Mann

        It is sad to hear you can not get it to work. You can upload your config file table and then we look at it.

        There are also many other factors that may cause bad idle ie dirt in the valve Large cam and so on
        It does not help to upgrade to 1.1.44 regarding idle but acceleration is much better.

        It is being made a new knock code (alternative knock) which I hope will be easier to set because the current is very complicated
        If you need equipment to knock I can recommend this KLM
        Vems since 2004

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        • Billman
          S2Forum Freak
          • Nov 2004
          • 4129

          #5
          does 1.1.44 work with Auditrigger? I gonna get to the car on 2 weeks so i am going to try it out once again!

          This code about knock sensing is going to be in a future version?

          Does 1.1.44 has the idle compensation thingy when voltage drops?
          Go Holset or Go RS4

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          • GazzaG60
            S2Forum Freak
            • Mar 2007
            • 4133
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            billman after speaking to somebody else who is testing 1.1.44 they said that it works better auditrigger now. the old issue of the sensor sync is now gone i believe.

            i too will do some testing with this once it gets a little warmer.

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            • button
              S2Forum Fanatic
              • Dec 2007
              • 99
              • Country: Poland

              #7
              Today I try this setup with firmware 1.1.27, but I forget to change spark table (only VE) but Idle works good. Tomorrow I try to change Spark table and I inform about progress.
              Audi 90 quattro '88 4.2V8 on VEMS
              Audi S4 C4 Avant 2.2T '92 @ 2,5TDI

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              • peter_jensen
                S2Forum Enthusiast
                • Jun 2007
                • 103
                • Country: Denmark

                #8
                Vems IDLE

                That’s great

                Nice that I could help you



                Vems since 2004

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                • Billman
                  S2Forum Freak
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 4129

                  #9
                  at what RPM does EGO correction start? I start it at 600 RPM so i have always good adaptation! with ths Idle valve it didnt worked so good without it, it was much better!

                  But i going to try the 1.1.44 out with the settings again and see what happens!
                  Go Holset or Go RS4

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                  • button
                    S2Forum Fanatic
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 99
                    • Country: Poland

                    #10
                    I'm starting EGO correction at 1600rpm and I didn't try to use idle valve with it.

                    PS. Sorry about OT but I must assign this question: for what value you have set the EGO correction stop?
                    Last edited by button; 23 January 2009, 16:58.
                    Audi 90 quattro '88 4.2V8 on VEMS
                    Audi S4 C4 Avant 2.2T '92 @ 2,5TDI

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                    • Billman
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 4129

                      #11
                      I installed firmware 1.1.44 but the car now dont start and i cant go back to the 1.1.27beta firmware! Any tips?
                      Go Holset or Go RS4

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                      • GazzaG60
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 4133
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        will it not detect the ecu?

                        you can bridge pins 2 and 3 for a reset. power off, paperclip in 2 and 3 and power up again. remove clip and redo firmware.

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                        • Billman
                          S2Forum Freak
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 4129

                          #13
                          no, i start megatune and it sees the ECU but i become this error message that it needs VEMS 16x14 and it has "$%§§$-Would you like to terminate MT now?.
                          If i press no, MT starts OK,i t reads the RPM and temps ok but it doesnt start! I think it has to do with settings.

                          Gazza do you run 1.1.44?
                          Go Holset or Go RS4

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                          • GazzaG60
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 4133
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            i run 1.1.27rc still IIRC

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                            • Billman
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 4129

                              #15
                              do you know of someone using 1.1.44? I need help fast because i need the car tomorrow!
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