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  • powaw
    S2Forum Fanatic
    • Jul 2009
    • 80
    • Country: United States

    #1

    Vems

    I was digging around on here some more and ran across the links to the efiexpress site. http://www.efiexpress.com/catalog/pr...&products_id=1
    Has anyone dealt with them? Opinions on using this setup in my AAN/944 swap.
    currently: 1987 944 NA 5spd, 250 lb hyper coils, 27 mm t bars, Koni, 968 m030 bars, full delrin, Audi I5 20VT, VEMS, Tilton, EFI Express, Seimens, Race Technologies
    see the AAN/944 swap at Nina's 20VT
  • A80Avant
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Sep 2005
    • 10873
    • Country: Greece

    #2
    search the forums. Marc is actually a sponsor now.

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    • a4kquattro
      S2Forum Addict
      • Feb 2005
      • 411
      • Country: United States

      #3
      fire away with questions, I have nothing but happy customers here, and I work hard to keep it that way
      Marc Swanson
      Proprietor, EFI Express
      95.5 //S6 Avant
      90' Coupe Quattro V8 4.2L twin turbo
      93' //S4
      83' UrQ
      97' F250 7.3 diesel

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      • powaw
        S2Forum Fanatic
        • Jul 2009
        • 80
        • Country: United States

        #4
        It says pnp. Does it use all of the stock sensors? Can it eliminate the maf sensor? Does it still control non ignition functions like the after run coolant pump? Does it use the MFTS? I've been looking on the wiki (not very well designed) and the forums for answers, but haven't invested alot of time yet. Last year I was looking at putting the MS system on the 944's stock motor, but stopped when I was seeing the issues with using the OEM timing sensors. I didn't want to switch to a crank mounted tooth wheel. It looks like VEMS uses the OEM timing sensors. So I guess basically if I installed it, what are the loose ends that will have to be tied up? By the way, thanks for replying!
        currently: 1987 944 NA 5spd, 250 lb hyper coils, 27 mm t bars, Koni, 968 m030 bars, full delrin, Audi I5 20VT, VEMS, Tilton, EFI Express, Seimens, Race Technologies
        see the AAN/944 swap at Nina's 20VT

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        • a4kquattro
          S2Forum Addict
          • Feb 2005
          • 411
          • Country: United States

          #5
          Originally posted by powaw
          It says pnp.
          because it is

          Does it use all of the stock sensors?
          yes, other than...

          Can it eliminate the maf sensor?
          the MAF is not used. You can remove it completely. Most VEMS users mount an air filter directly to the turbo, but this is not a requirement. you can still leave the stock MAF in place if you want to.

          Does it still control non ignition functions like the after run coolant pump?
          as I mentioned in the other thread, the afterrun coolant pump is a discrete circuit with no interaction to the ecu (same deal with the cruise control system). Works on VEMS.

          Does it use the MFTS?
          No, and neither does motronic. The MTFS is actually used by the HVAC system. The coolant sensor used by the ECU is located at the back of the cylinder head.

          I've been looking on the wiki (not very well designed)
          no argument here..

          and the forums for answers, but haven't invested alot of time yet. Last year I was looking at putting the MS system on the 944's stock motor, but stopped when I was seeing the issues with using the OEM timing sensors. I didn't want to switch to a crank mounted tooth wheel. It looks like VEMS uses the OEM timing sensors.
          correct.

          So I guess basically if I installed it, what are the loose ends that will have to be tied up?
          click here for comprehensive installation instructions:

          http://www.efiexpress.com/catalog/ar...?articles_id=1

          By the way, thanks for replying!
          Not a problem, fire away with any additional questions.
          Marc Swanson
          Proprietor, EFI Express
          95.5 //S6 Avant
          90' Coupe Quattro V8 4.2L twin turbo
          93' //S4
          83' UrQ
          97' F250 7.3 diesel

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          • powaw
            S2Forum Fanatic
            • Jul 2009
            • 80
            • Country: United States

            #6
            Do you have a document that details the vems operation in this application? Does it have usb connectivity? Will there be any hardware changes in the near future?
            currently: 1987 944 NA 5spd, 250 lb hyper coils, 27 mm t bars, Koni, 968 m030 bars, full delrin, Audi I5 20VT, VEMS, Tilton, EFI Express, Seimens, Race Technologies
            see the AAN/944 swap at Nina's 20VT

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            • powaw
              S2Forum Fanatic
              • Jul 2009
              • 80
              • Country: United States

              #7
              Nevermind on the usb part. I found it in the instructions.
              currently: 1987 944 NA 5spd, 250 lb hyper coils, 27 mm t bars, Koni, 968 m030 bars, full delrin, Audi I5 20VT, VEMS, Tilton, EFI Express, Seimens, Race Technologies
              see the AAN/944 swap at Nina's 20VT

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              • a4kquattro
                S2Forum Addict
                • Feb 2005
                • 411
                • Country: United States

                #8
                Originally posted by powaw
                Do you have a document that details the vems operation in this application? Does it have usb connectivity? Will there be any hardware changes in the near future?

                hardware no, software / firmware YES. the new firmware has some pretty exciting stuff in it, like the ability to taper boost if EGT gets too high.
                Marc Swanson
                Proprietor, EFI Express
                95.5 //S6 Avant
                90' Coupe Quattro V8 4.2L twin turbo
                93' //S4
                83' UrQ
                97' F250 7.3 diesel

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                • Bram
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 2582
                  • Country: Netherlands

                  #9
                  Originally posted by a4kquattro
                  hardware no, software / firmware YES. the new firmware has some pretty exciting stuff in it, like the ability to taper boost if EGT gets too high.
                  Marc,

                  What is the new version number and when does it come available?

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                  • powaw
                    S2Forum Fanatic
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 80
                    • Country: United States

                    #10
                    Braum are you using VEMS? How do you like the turbo you have installed? What rpm does it hit full boost at? Thanks
                    currently: 1987 944 NA 5spd, 250 lb hyper coils, 27 mm t bars, Koni, 968 m030 bars, full delrin, Audi I5 20VT, VEMS, Tilton, EFI Express, Seimens, Race Technologies
                    see the AAN/944 swap at Nina's 20VT

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                    • A80Avant
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 10873
                      • Country: Greece

                      #11
                      1.1.57 has been used by some suppliers but im waiting for the official update to be 100% certain it works properly

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                      • max_s2
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 498
                        • Country: Latvia

                        #12
                        I'm running 1.1.53 on my S2. No probz so far

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                        • GazzaG60
                          S2Forum Freak
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 4133
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          glad its going well Arnis. did the settings i sent help?

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                          • a4kquattro
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 411
                            • Country: United States

                            #14
                            Originally posted by GazzaG60
                            glad its going well Arnis. did the settings i sent help?
                            has the vemstune issue been resolved in 1.1.5x that displays 255 as the max instead of actual KPA in the VE table?
                            Marc Swanson
                            Proprietor, EFI Express
                            95.5 //S6 Avant
                            90' Coupe Quattro V8 4.2L twin turbo
                            93' //S4
                            83' UrQ
                            97' F250 7.3 diesel

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                            • A80Avant
                              S2Forum Obsessed
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 10873
                              • Country: Greece

                              #15
                              no it hasnt.you just reduce it in your mind...haha

                              basically on a 400kpa sensor: 255=400 and then you need to divide it to make the correct numbers.

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