VEMS and Ford light green injectors roughly at idle

[th.b.w.]

Hy,

so , i've got the new LS2 Truckcoils and Siemens Deka installed.
Idle is smooth, pulsewith is ~1.6 ms, it is o.k.
On full boost they have an duty about 63-64% at WOT 1.9bar, they run perfect.....

But i missed about 20-30 PS on the VEMS setup.
On Motronic i feel over 4000 RPM more power, what ign. advance is at 4000, 5000, 6000 and MAP 260 / 300 (1.6 and 2.0 bar) possible ?

Thomas

[th.b.w.]

Hy, that' right.

I learn every day .....

Thomas

[GazzaG60]

problem with the bosch green/red/grey etc is age and originality. they could be anything.

it goes to show a flow test is needed. its amazing how many just fit the injectors they source from ???? but check other less important items.

[th.b.w.]

O.K. ,

i have ordered the 630 Dekas...

I believe my light green are falsifications, have you heard about this .....

Thanks Thomas

[Bram]

I run the Siemens Deka 630ccm injectors and they work great with VEMS.

[Jamo]

I have 630 in my 10VT,works fine.Wont go over 40% Duty tho

Pah stick a bigger turbo on it Pete

[pnanassy]

I have 630 in my 10VT,works fine.Wont go over 40% Duty tho

[A80Avant]

if you are going to go for even bigger turbo later, i would suggest to go for the 630. that way you wont have many adjustments to make when redoing the VEMS maps,like i have to do now by changing from 440 to 630.

[th.b.w.]

Hy,

so as i changed the injectors to RS2, now i have an stabile idle, AFR is turning from 0.97 to 1.01, thats great.

I can become the Siemens DEKA 550ccm or the 750ccm with Flowprotocol, they have an tolerance from 0.1ml in a set of 5....
I will try it with the smaler 550er because i think the 750er are to big.....

Have anyone use them ?
They looks like the same as the 630er...

Thomas

[Jamo]

Yes they have 2-4 developers working on firmwares at a minimum now and a lot of features they've had planned are being thrown into the mix.

To me it's like George's Marvellous Medicine by Rohl Dahl, hopefully they'll find the right mix soon

[A80Avant]

mine is 28. Tried various other settings,but it is reacting ok there.

i have noticed that others think that ego in 1.1.6x is not as fast.

The problem with all those changes, is the fact that the developers are doing them, without issueing a simple or complicated(i dont mind) manual which states how each setting with its value affects running. Megamanual was there to explain all that, but the VEMS guys are not simply adding things, they also change old settings that seemed to work nicely.
I believe that in many cases that may have been unavoidable, BUT, if you have to do it, then give explanations of how it is now managed. Trying to set values blindly or providing a base map is not the answer. Trial and error will be unavoidable, but at least we have an idea of what an increase or a decrease in a value does to the engine running, rather than expecting to listen to the engine.
Many of those settings may only appear in certain circomstances so changing them may not make a difference on idle, but may affect running, etc.

The whole idea behinds vems was ( i think) NOT having to rely necesseraly on a tuner to make all the changes. Now, even VEMS retailers are not sure what each new feature should be having as values.

[Bram]

EGO control for idle and cruising works great on 1.1.27b6

[Jamo]

what part of PID? the P,I or D?

Speed limit ( or PID kp ) is box name under EGO closed loop control settings

[A80Avant]

what part of PID? the P,I or D?

[Jamo]

It's because I'm using the 1.1.6x settings not the 1.1.27

1.1.6x says PID should be 30 or higher, mine is set to 64 where as in 1.1.27 it's set to 4 will test that later