LPG Conversion for 7A Coupe 20V Quattro?

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  • kotnelson
    S2Forum Buff
    • Oct 2008
    • 48
    • Country: Thailand

    #31
    Originally posted by pnanassy
    And whats the relation between the fuel prices where you live?

    Here LPG costs 168-190HUF
    95 octane 33-360HUF

    Peter

    __________________THB____USD
    CNG (NGV)_________8.5____0.264
    LPG______________11.4____0.354
    Diesel B5_________27.99____0.868
    Diesel____________28.89____0.896

    Gasohol E20______30.14____0.935
    Gasohol E10 - 91__30.94____0.960
    Gasohol E10 - 95__32.44____1.007
    Gasoline 91_______36.24____1.124
    Gasoline 95_______35.34____1.096

    Remark : Exchange Currency 1 USD = 32.23 THB

    While you pay for LPG between USD 0.719 - 0.814
    And for 95 between USD 1.413 - 1.541

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    • kotnelson
      S2Forum Buff
      • Oct 2008
      • 48
      • Country: Thailand

      #32
      Originally posted by monkey
      Hi quite new to this forum thing but very interested in this thread as im currently in the process of collecting parts for an b4 80 quattro project that i plan on running on lpg, so far i have a 3ltr v6 and running gear out of a a4 cab and an m90 supercharger to mount on it am looking at a 2nd hand prins vsi system off a 3ltr v6 a4 and would appreciate any and all constructive input or information

      Just my though...

      1/ Supercharge on stock NA engine will not give you much power and kill engine life.
      2/ Decide on which system to use LPG as below chart
      3/ Alternative way to "increase power". In your area you can find 1.8T engine or2.7T bi-turbo which can fit into B4 and gain big power. 1.8T you can mod software upto 195 HP that cost equal to just a supercharge without software. Or with 3B/ABY engine?
      4/ Hope you can bolt engine from B5 into B4 without big fabricate of engine bay. Good to run with VSI to get less problem with stock ECM on immo, in my area they run with F-Con VPro.

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      • pnanassy
        S2Forum Addict
        • Dec 2004
        • 287
        • Country: Hungary

        #33
        Thanks for the detailed infos!

        What lambda dou you have at cruise and at full throttle?

        Do you experience power loss when running on LPG?

        Peter
        Peter Nanassy

        Custom Engine Management,and Electronic Fuel Injection solutions supplier , contact me for details.

        http://www.carstyling.hu/car_shower.php?id=19845
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYOVA_285Rs

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        • kotnelson
          S2Forum Buff
          • Oct 2008
          • 48
          • Country: Thailand

          #34
          Originally posted by pnanassy
          Thanks for the detailed infos!

          What lambda dou you have at cruise and at full throttle?

          Do you experience power loss when running on LPG?

          Peter
          You're welcome. I tunned LPG 3 year ago when I have stock chip of 230 HP.
          Tunned as close as petrol. Power loss approx 5% except tunned rich at >5000 rpm
          This is to save the engine (I can hit at appro 210 KM/HR).

          Last year I put new chip of 264 HP and work fine with petrol and LPG so
          did not care to re-tune. I plan to service LPG system by cleaning injector, change
          filter, new flex rubber hose, on/off solinoid valve at Tank and reducer. This time will re-tune LPG and good Preventive M. (With this chip I can hit >220 KM/HR without tune)
          (will update after tune)

          TIP :
          -Best to change all fuel hose that can handle E10/E20/E85 start from fuel tank
          all the way to rail and return line.
          -Don't leave E10/E20 in the tank, better to use 2 tank per month.
          -I decide to top up 1/2 tank all time with Gasoline 91 to prevent rust in the metal tank

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          • pnanassy
            S2Forum Addict
            • Dec 2004
            • 287
            • Country: Hungary

            #35
            Here is my 20VT LPG engine installed.

            Peter Nanassy

            Custom Engine Management,and Electronic Fuel Injection solutions supplier , contact me for details.

            http://www.carstyling.hu/car_shower.php?id=19845
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYOVA_285Rs

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            • b3robo
              S2Forum Enthusiast
              • Aug 2010
              • 149
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #36
              I've done a bit of reading about LPG, I read somewhere there is extra wear on the valves as there is no lead additive in LPG? can anyone confirm this? is reduced engine life a concern using LPG on older 5 cylinder Audi engines?

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              • kotnelson
                S2Forum Buff
                • Oct 2008
                • 48
                • Country: Thailand

                #37
                Originally posted by b3robo
                I've done a bit of reading about LPG, I read somewhere there is extra wear on the valves as there is no lead additive in LPG? can anyone confirm this? is reduced engine life a concern using LPG on older 5 cylinder Audi engines?
                As far as my knowledge, those engine with leaded fuel in late 70'
                I think B3-B4-B5 body, engine using those day should have improved the head.
                So there is no worry on this issue.

                In my area we run LPG on the 60'-70' Japanese engine and it went far as
                500,000 km. w/o problem

                LPG will give cleaner combrushion chamber, but a bit higher temp.
                Older engine you can advance ignition timing by a few degrees would work better.

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