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  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    VEMS injector settings

    What have VEMS users got for the injector group table?

    After MRC I changed my settings to the attached and the difference is night and day, i've looked over my stored maps from different users and there is a lot of differences looks like there is no standardisation.

    Who's running the same as this?

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  • Billman
    S2Forum Freak
    • Nov 2004
    • 4129

    #2
    i use this setup
    Go Holset or Go RS4

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    • s2martyn
      Banned
      • Apr 2008
      • 408
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      mine are way different....i cannot save the file to upload as a pic...do i have to photo the scren then upload?

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      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        perform ctrl+alt+prt screen and save it as a picture

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        • s2martyn
          Banned
          • Apr 2008
          • 408
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          what was the noticable diffence?

          maybe peter set up our system this way for a reason??

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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Peter uses the same injector order I posted in the 1st post on his new tunings from his latest maps I have.

            The engine is smoother and responds better

            As to why, older map older firmware older way of thinking, vems knowledge evolves so does the configuration does with it and the new injector order is superior to the old by a mile

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            • s2martyn
              Banned
              • Apr 2008
              • 408
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              i will change to these settings and report back...i am just going to change to latest firmware to keep up with you guys....seems vems has come a long way in the last 6 months

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                I sent you a new map because there were somethings wrong with your existing one

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                • A80Avant
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 10873
                  • Country: Greece

                  #9
                  i use this from day 1. Marc's input of course. i had nothing to do with it!

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                  • Billman
                    S2Forum Freak
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 4129

                    #10
                    I also use it from day one 4 years ago.
                    Go Holset or Go RS4

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                    • Jamo
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 21750
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Not really interested in playground talk I've used it for years or who said to use it, I know other vems users are using different setting to the screenshot this is to help all as it's not documented from my research

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                      • Billman
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 4129

                        #12
                        Sorry but we know only what is available to us......from people who share.....you know....

                        Till now i have only seen these settings and most probably its the setting people use with PnP Motronic. Maybe the maps you have are from econoseal/universal inplementations.
                        Go Holset or Go RS4

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                        • Jamo
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 21750
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          No the injector output is the same on the econseal and plug and play

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                          • max_s2
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 498
                            • Country: Latvia

                            #14
                            As far as I understand, this needs to be set according to engine firing order (on our cars it's 1-2-4-5-3).

                            So if I have (I've custom made VEMS so this could be different to others who run for example VEMS p&p):
                            injector-1 ec36-7
                            injector-2 ec36-19
                            injector-3 ec36-8
                            injector-4 ec36-20
                            injector-5 ec36-9

                            then it should fire like in attached config screenshot.
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                            • Jamo
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21750
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Originally posted by max_s2
                              As far as I understand, this needs to be set according to engine firing order (on our cars it's 1-2-4-5-3).

                              So if I have (I've custom made VEMS so this could be different to others who run for example VEMS p&p):
                              injector-1 ec36-7
                              injector-2 ec36-19
                              injector-3 ec36-8
                              injector-4 ec36-20
                              injector-5 ec36-9

                              then it should fire like in attached config screenshot.
                              The standard vems AAN output is as below for plug and play and econseal from the documents I have, you injector order I have never seen before


                              EC36-07 INJ-A 34 Fuel injector #5 control (switched 0V)
                              EC36-19 INJ-B 35 Fuel injector #4 control (switched 0V)
                              EC36-09 INJ-E 15 Fuel injector #3 control (switched 0V)
                              EC36-08 INJ-C 16 Fuel injector #2 control (switched 0V)
                              EC36-20 INJ-D 17 Fuel injector #1 control (switched 0V)

                              Changing it to the one in the 1st post changes it to 3-1-2-4-5 which is a transposition of 1-2-4-5-3

                              As said this works for me and looking at other users it works for a lot of others

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