Which engine management system to use ?

[blackS2]

I dont get why people starting to fight each other about an ECU

[blackS2]

As I said. Glitches was a thing of the past back in 2010 to 2012 when upgrades in vems were constant. Even then you could run and map the car without a problem.

This is simply not true. fought major issues in 2015 ending in new firmware development by VEMS. And was not able to map and run the car with those glitches. Maybe you are still using 1.1.96

But you dont need glitches that crack your engine to be pissed after a while

Glitch could be simply a wrong setting or a poor sensor. Pissing around with settings??? Sorry but even the best base map you'll get needs a lot of tinkering before it runs right

You are funny... how many ecus did you map in the past??

Who said that with any aftermarket ecu you won't run into glitches? Just wait. They happen with all ecus

Nobody. Found some bugs in LINK after 3 days of usage - ending in new firmware by LINK. LINK developer support was brilliant.

But again, dont missunderstand my posts. Im not promoting or advising against something. I'm just telling my experience and my decision.

[A80Avant]

Don't need to be so defensive Vas, I'm not attacking VEMS and I never have. You pay your money you take your choice. Just adding my decision making process to the thread.

I am not being defensive. I fail to see the logic behind your 'conserns' and hence I see that you will face the same hurdles with maxxecu as you would have with vems.

I'm a bit out of sync with spiritual and religious matters so when it comes to scientology I fail to see the joke [emoji12] [emoji12]

To sum I think this forum has now about 10 threads going back and forth for aftermarket ecu and people have enough information to decide or get in touch. It's starting to get as boring as the infamous 'discussions' with Dmitri and motronic tuning [emoji23] [emoji23] . So it's for these reasons that I'm uut

[diesel des]

Darn self correct. Motronic converts to moronic lol

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[jogi730]

I have also had a moronic ecu fail on me too so everything can and will brake.

You wouldn't recommend one of those then!

[cardcrash]

Scientologists!!! now that's some crazy 5hit

[Error404]

Likewise, no offence intended

[macspring]

As usual with these threads it's VEMS Vs everyone else


It's funny how many VEMS guys are just like Scientologists

Love your posts. Always incisive and to the point.

Apologies to anyone else - no offence intended.

As you were.

[Error404]

It's funny how many VEMS guys are just like Scientologists

[diesel des]

I have 2 vems ecus one on my urs4 and the other for my urq. I bought the urq ecu second hand and it has gave problems. But now vems have actually replaced the entire ecu with a brand new one for less than 200 euro. Sure it took some time and messing around but that's how things go. I would have no reservations buying another vems ecu. I find it quite easy to map to be honest and I'm no expert.

I have also had a moronic ecu fail on me too so everything can and will brake.

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[mushasho!]

Nothing specific. You both missed the word "concerns" out of my statement.

I figured it was pure speculation, and I guess that's fine for some, but...

Until someone, somewhere, can without a doubt point out a failure that was caused soley because of the use of VEMS, I'm gonna have a hard time accepting that it's inferior to other units solely because of the hardware it uses internally.

I say make an ECU choice based on your(tuners) preferred GUI, your builds required inputs/outputs, and budget as most motor failures are not ECU related but more user error.

[Error404]

Nothing specific. You both missed the word "concerns" out of my statement.

[mushasho!]

I was put off VEMS bevause of reliability

I'm curious as to what the failure was. Which part of VEMS was unreliable?

[Error404]

Don't need to be so defensive Vas, I'm not attacking VEMS and I never have. You pay your money you take your choice. Just adding my decision making process to the thread.

[A80Avant]

Well I can't speak for anyone else but I was put off VEMS bevause of reliability and usability concerns. I'd rather pay more and not have glitches and have a smooth user interface. Also I can't be bothered pissing around with settings that need hours of research to understand. I just want to map the car.

As I said. Glitches was a thing of the past back in 2010 to 2012 when upgrades in vems were constant. Even then you could run and map the car without a problem.

Who said that with any aftermarket ecu you won't run into glitches? Glitch could be simply a wrong setting or a poor sensor. Pissing around with settings??? Sorry but even the best base map you'll get needs a lot of tinkering before it runs right

Just wait. They happen with all ecus